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		<title>GSJ Forums News</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As some members have noticed -and grown tired of- I have again been absent for longer and longer periods of time from forums activity and general site email and admin duties. Apologies for those of you who have emailed, posted or PMed me anytime in the last 2 months. My work life had completely taken [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some members have noticed -and grown tired of- I have again been absent for longer and longer periods of time from forums activity and general site email and admin duties. Apologies for those of you who have emailed, posted or PMed me anytime in the last 2 months. My work life had completely taken over my life.</p>
<p>At this point I have decided to close the forums to new registrants. I hope to wade through the backlog of communication. Not sure what is going to happen to the forums. They need to be rather actively moderated, yet my schedule does not allow. I had a post up for some time about seeking mods. Then there was the big fiasco where the couple mods there were all got reset as the only solution everyone was happy with.</p>
<p>I will keep you posted on the forum status here in the blog &#8211;as soon as I figure out what I&#8217;m going to do. At its inception, the GSJ forums was the only GS dedicated forums that I knew of. Now I know there have been a handful of others that have been around for some time now. I believe those are all public, whereas GSJ forums are private. There are several really good threads that I think may TIs would like to  read, so it would be nice if there was more of a community effort to  mod the forums.</p>
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		<title>GS retrospective</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that many &#8216;middle men&#8217; -that is those who are part of the STS hierarchy- function on some basic principles, and that one of these is &#8220;it&#8217;s a dog-eat-dog world&#8221;, and so the best we can do is &#8220;look out for number one&#8221; &#8211;I can see this principle acted upon when it comes to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that many &#8216;middle men&#8217; -that is those who are part of the STS hierarchy- function on some basic principles, and that one of these is &#8220;it&#8217;s a dog-eat-dog world&#8221;, and so the best we can do is &#8220;look out for number one&#8221; &#8211;I can see this principle acted upon when it comes to bogus covers like &#8216;national security&#8217;. These are certainly the overt agendas (or cover stories depending on awareness/willing-participation level)</p>
<p>One useful pattern that repeats and also applies to covert oppression is that very often what seems like relationships of &#8217;cause and effect&#8217; are actually all EFFECTS of a deeper CAUSE. I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that no matter how hard I look for cold hard explanations to the various EFFECTS, there is undoubtably another layer, another source (cause) of all the effects and that the underlying source is not limited to physical, everyday reality. I think that human involvement is but one of the branches of a deeper STS source, and that the phenomena of covert oppression are but branches of a deeper engagement (battle) taking place, which is really part of the infinite loop of becoming, but that&#8217;s another topic.</p>
<p>Everytime I&#8217;ve had what  I thought to be a pretty solid understanding of (for example) the networking involved to explain the physical tactics and their effectiveness, and  the history of experimentation related to oppression, such as the interrogation, torture, and other psychological warfare tactics used to demoralize targets&#8230; &#8211;as clear and connective as these explorations of the most mundane mechanics go, I&#8217;ve yet been forced to realize that all the sorting of &#8216;objective data&#8217; still leaves the root cause in shadows.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen, felt, touched (and so on) many phenomena that are only explainable by tapping into my subjective experience (my internal sense of knowing and working to understand the pieces I&#8217;m dealt), consensus reality be damned. For example, I&#8217;ve witnessed regular everyday people morph from neutral person on the street to nefarious agent type. I&#8217;ve seen this in so many phases of the transition and in so many different situations, including smaller instances where I generally trust the people, and can tell they are not aware of the momentary shift, that there is no conventionally &#8216;reasonable explanation&#8217;. I&#8217;ve learned to discern between mobs of thrill seeking stalkers, top notch performers, reluctant messengers (those lured by slander and/or intimidated into &#8216;punishing the evildoer&#8217;), etc&#8230; (all regular old humans), and these are very different from the encounters with &#8216;agents&#8217; who morph into (possess) regular people. There is a fierce intelligence, a faster than light speed reading and responding to the toughts I think, and a distinct &#8216;energy signature&#8217; when this happens. There is no doubt in these situations that I&#8217;m dealing with the same entity in multiple cases, talking through multiple people. (then there&#8217;s the somewhat creepy leering smilers, which are like dumb or weaker appendages of the hive mind, they can only transmit a fraction of the watchfulness of the hive mind)</p>
<p>Ironically, I&#8217;ve come to see that the truest most useful perspectives come from universally subjective experiences, not objective data &#8211;objectivity is, after all, a consensus version of reality. It&#8217;s what groups of people agree to believe about reality, it&#8217;s the status quo, the static. We seek change and open mindedness, considering alternative perspectives, is a part of removing oneself from the statis of consensus reality. We can certainly gain greater perspective from following some effects/symptoms back to their immediate causes, such as Nazi Germany or the KKK or [insert a terrorist organization of your choice] have been breeding grounds where many psychological warfare and oppression tactics were developed that have been further perfected and are used today. We can trace specific tactics to specific groups and periods of history, and track the development of tactics&#8230; These are objective data we can learn from, yet the subjective experience is the truer measure, and something we can put to much greater use. We all know what it feels like to experience the fear, misery, disbelief, general demoralization that GS attempts to evoke in the individual, and we&#8217;re all picking up lessons from these experiences, such as how to become stronger, how to recognize covert manipulation, what freedom feels like, how it is defined distinctly apart from oppression. Most importantly, we can address the common subjective experience of oppression and work from there to find ways to make ourselves stronger and provide knowledge to others with the intent that they may do the same. As I walk along such a path, I see rather distinct polarities (STO and STS), whereas I once believed that most people are good, and that &#8220;everyone is good deep down&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>I do not think that the world is something that needs to be fixed. I think it is a school, at least that it begins to appear as such to those of us who are seeing the underbelly. I believe it is a rather &#8217;straight and narrow path&#8217; in that the challenges are primarily internal. The goal is understanding and graduation to &#8216;the next thing&#8217; (frequency of existence) &#8211;after all, what comes after 3rd grade, but 4th grade? I don&#8217;t know what you see in regard to this, but I see that phenomena like &#8216;Good versus Evil&#8217; are a diversification process whereby we&#8217;re pressed to become more responsible for our actions, for our part in co-creating reality. Both paths (STO and STS) are valid, but as we&#8217;re pressed to explore and understand these two basic ways of moving in the world with clear intent, this explains the very evil deeds as well as the very noble and altruistic stances that distinguish GS perps from TIs, respectively.</p>
<p>update: I&#8217;d say now that this is more like an incubator of consciousness, and those we might call STS are just different types of beings from different typs of seeds.</p>
<p>One of the most lingering &#8216;agreements&#8217; of modern objective reality is that &#8216;this [physical reality] is all there is to it; there is nothing before or beyond physical life&#8217;. At the very beginning of my experiences with GS (the oft mentioned drugging and mind hacking sessions I experienced), long before any attempt at sensitizing me in more brutal ways, the first interrogations surrounded my beliefs about reality, such as I&#8217;ve formed through meditation, &#8216;out of body experiences&#8217;, and even memories of my existence before/outside of this lifetime, &#8216;before the walls&#8217;. As with any covert manipulation operation, the lies and areas of interest (what the interrogation surrounds) say very much about what is being covered up / what the source wants to keep covered up. If we believe that this life is &#8216;all there is to it&#8217;, there is very little concern for real meaningful learning: why bother? Without striving for knowledge we would be left as vapid pawns, and this is why relatively unconscious (sleepwalking) people are able to act out their parts in the most heinous attacks on others. They&#8217;ve bought the bit about life being a meaningless drone of work, sleep and eating.</p>
<p>My point is not to dismiss the more objective data, but to share that what I&#8217;ve learned is that objective reality (or more accurately &#8216;consensus reality&#8217;) is often a tool used to obfuscate the basic mechanics of oppression. So, the police believe what they need to in order to fit into their particular prescribed branch of &#8216;objective reality&#8217;, the average person does the same, so on and so forth. We can look into higher positions of power (such as the FBI, or the wealthy corporations, etc) and certainly it seems probable that there are people who know more about the extra-physical sources and forces at work, but naturally, many of them are also just trying to fit into &#8216;objective reality&#8217; as it&#8217;s been passed down from one generation to the next.</p>
<p>Most evil deeds are not acted out with intent, but rather with ignorance. Many generally well meaning people become cogs in large nefarious collectives &#8211;they give up their individuality to a group, a corporation, etc, in the hope of finding identity without having to think too much about the difficult issues in life.</p>
<p>Again, this is primarily an internal struggle. As decidedly STO beings, many TIs seek to share their perspective with others; we make ourselves available to both offer and consider perspectives. Externally we can educate others and this offers tools for their own internal struggles against the systems of control. But the struggle, the process of development, happens internally, and so is up to each individual.</p>
<p>Getting back to the idea that this particular realm is one of many, the commonalities shared by most humans appear to revolve around struggling (and taking joy in) learning to become more fully individuated, and to understand how our beliefs and actions affect our experiences of reality, as well as that of others. For the average stalker type, escaping indoctrination into the STS hierarchy (as agent pawns of the system of control) requires &#8216;thinking for oneself&#8217; and they will continue to be manipulated as long as it takes for them to &#8216;wake up&#8217; and do just that, and to gather enough pieces to be able to make more rational decisions about their contribution to their experience of reality and that of others. For what it&#8217;s worth, I believe that many STO types in this world *have* gathered a &#8216;critical mass&#8217; of data such that our learning-to-make-more rational-decisions means understanding that we can only change ourselves, and cannot become attached to whatever farther reaching effects our decisions and development may have on the world at large. We can&#8217;t change the world, but we can move in resonance with the version/aspect of reality which we want to experience. There are many people who would take your freedom away, but only you can give it up; only you can choose to embrace freedom with all the increased input and responsibility to make sense of the new perspectives you encounter.</p>
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		<title>Things I Know For Sure</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those who may not be aware of the book, the title of this post is a nod to the Vonnegut book Sirens of Titan, wherein the main character, after being shoved around by the powers-that-be, has been brainwashed as a member of the Martian army. Though he starts off as a rather self-assured wealthy [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Satan, the Dweller at the Threshold (involution-evolution)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading more about Dweller on the Threshold reframed my earlier doorway OBEs to have been a type of initiation to another degree of consciousness. I can see how, along a rather natural progression, the residual past me&#8217;s and even transpersonal -collective unconscious- the stuff of the World, formed a concentration of shadow consciousness. This was [...]]]></description>
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		<title>what is gang stalking</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently on the GSJ Forums a member posted one of the best examples, I think, of using logic to work with the pieces we as targets *do* have and come up with some reasonable possibilities of who/what/why gang stalking is ( rather than starting from someone else&#8217;s theories and trying to match theirs up to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently on the GSJ Forums a member posted one of the best examples, I think, of using logic to work with the pieces we as targets *do* have and come up with some reasonable possibilities of who/what/why gang stalking is ( rather than starting from someone else&#8217;s theories and trying to match theirs up to the more popular theories).</p>
<p>I think the exploration that Vijay has done will be very useful for many people. Whether you find some aspects more relevant than others or all/none of it, I only remind you that you must ask your own questions and explore the implications of the pieces in your particular sets of experiences.</p>
<p>note: the following forum thread was started by an ex-member who does not wish to be named nor have their work displayed, so those have been omitted. I will not be updating this thread here, but you can apply for access to the forums if you would like to read more and add your perspective.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>What is Gang Stalking and TI social control?</strong><br />
<strong>TI Gang Stalking is a framework of social control of group of people</strong> and this framework can be used by any system (even non-government system) to control group of people without doing anything illegal in the control framework. From this fact, things are very clear that whoever wants to gangstalke the TI they don&#8217;t want to do anything illegal as a part of gang-stalking.</p>
<p>TI gang stalking allows to <strong>inflict enormous pain to the TI without doing anything illegal</strong> and TI gang stalking is planned in such a way the actions involved in the TI gang stalking are designed considering the <strong>loop-holes in the law.</strong><br />
<strong>Often the technology and hi-tech machines are used to introduce and amplify the pain, negative emotions</strong> (anger, fear, aversion, feel helpless etc). And the<strong> gang stalking is used to anchor the pain and negative emotions to the aspects of life</strong> (community, environment, person, time, objects) so that the TIs perception of all the aspect of life is turned negative. Also the occurrence of gang stalking is planned so that the TIs perception of aspects of life remains negative permanently and TI is never given time for cure.</p>
<p>Once the stalkers are successful in turning the perception of the TIs, the TI develops mood disorder. And for the perp programmed anchors when occur normally in life will trigger a bad mood for the TI(even if it is a normal life occurrence and not the GS event). And the TI views all the person who displays this gesture or anchor as a perp because of the influence of the forced mood disorder.</p>
<p>For example as a part of GS perps artificially cough and anchors cough with aversion. And after turning the TIs perception and introducing the mood disorder for given set of anchors. Even if a non-perp person coughs then the TI gets the bad mood (I hate when someone coughs like that). For every occurrence of programmed anchors if the anchors are displayed in normal life then the TI gets bad mood and this anchors act as triggers for the bad mood. With all those bad mood in life, the majority of TIs life is spent thinking about the GS and other problems.</p>
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<p>Irrespective of who does the gang stalking we have to analyse the methods and characteristics of gang stalking to have a better understanding of who does it.</p>
<p>Now we shall analyse characteristics of TI gang stalking system.</p>
<p><strong>What are the motivations to form the TI gang stalking system?<br />
</strong>TI gang stalking is used by the system(government like big system) as virtual jail for the TI. TI gang stalking helps in achieving the following factors:</p>
<p>1. By the TI gang stalking the given TI can be isolated form the community and create barrier for the TI with the community.<br />
2. By the TI gang stalking the TI losses the confidence in the community and fears to do anything dramatic or revolutional or do anything that will impact the community.<br />
3. By the TI gang stalking the TI thoughts can be starved to only think about the problem of gang stalking and other life issues are thought or planned least.<br />
4. TI gang stalking spoils the ego identity and confidence of the TI and don&#8217;t allow the TI to reach a successful life (if the TI achieves successful life or influential life then the TI cannot be controlled).</p>
<p>Consider a case where if the government know that a particular person will compulsorily involve in crime or anti-social activities then the government can confine them (for example psychopathic person will compulsorily harm public and this type of people will be confined). But in the case of person with narcissistic or sociopathic psychology or something similar in concept the government cannot confine them, because the probability that the person with such psychology involving in anti-social activities varies from person to person. And the probability that the person will involve in anti-social activities depends on numerous factors. If the government still confines the person, then it is like punishing an innocent person for the sole reason that the government suspects the person who may involve in illegal activities, who didn&#8217;t commit anything illegal.</p>
<p>Similar to the above concept if the government or a system who wishes to control a person who didn&#8217;t involves in crime then gang stalking is only the way to do it and this rationalises the use of gang stalking on TIs.</p>
<p><strong>What are the salient features of the TI gang stalking system?</strong><br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Control across countries:</span><br />
We have learnt that GS even get followed offshore and across the countries who would have such power to GS across countries. Definitely a organization with some volunteers with limited fund cannot do it, the organization with funds comparable to the national schemes and salaried perps who can dedicate their time for GS available across the stable economic countries can only do GS across shores.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">System has the power for very long duration:</span><br />
If the Gang Stalking is done by the non-governmental agency then system which does the Gang Stalking or TI social control doesn&#8217;t have any legal liability to perform Gang Stalking actions which are at least most of the time is legal but falls within the loop-holes of the law. If the Gang Stalking system doesn&#8217;t have any legal liability then the Gang Stalking can involve criminal or illegal actions and can escape after doing it.</p>
<p>If the system doesn&#8217;t have legal liability then instead of doing Gang Stalking (in which the law loop-holes are considered and it is so complex), they could easily kill the TI, instead of doing the GS all along the TI life (365days a year). If the perps can kill the TI at their convenience then why not kill the TIs immediately instead of gangstalke them and DEW attacking them for several years and then kill them. If the perps kill the TI and can cover it up why not kill the TIs immediately instead of giving so much trouble and then kill them later. What type of the system can and wants to Gangstalke and trouble the TI for so much time or years?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The system is dedicated and involve in work for 24/7:</span><br />
How the TI family members agree to take part in the GS session? What reason is given for them? Definitely not all of the family members will agree for money as the reason. Does the perps threaten the TI family members to take part on the GS. Or what could be the reason? When the perps meet the family members? Do they watch the life of entire TI family members before approaching them? And who can do it?</p>
<p>Consider a TI going to a shopping mall and perps managers are planning for a GS in the shopping mall. TO perform GS in the shopping mall they require people to perform GS, not just one or two can do GS in a shopping mall. Now to perform GS they can request people in the mall to GS which requires time, by the time the perp managers request each and everyone the TI will finish shopping and leave the mall .Or the perp managers can mobilize the part time gang stalkers to mall from volunteers group who know how to gangstalke and can do gang stalking with less supervision. If the perps or gangstalking planers want to perfectly determine the outcome of gang stalking they should involve trained gangstalkers who has prior gang stalking experience. And if this case is true(if there are part time gang stalkers and if they are trained prior) then GS activity is preplanned and well managed activity with huge fund. Even if the funds are available for GS activity how many of the perps will be willing to dedicate their time for GS at time convenient for the perp managers and how the GS managers mobilize or collect the trained gang stalkers from different location and move them to the shopping mall where GS activity is planned.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The system is well funded and the fund magnitude is comparable with the national schemes budget:</span><br />
The perps who are part of the GS system or TI social control easily manages to turn the public against the TI for the GS session. Why the public turn so easily and what reason is explained for the public to make them to agree for the perps request in the TI stalking. Does public turn because the GS session involves nothing illegal (mostly it involves coughing, bumping into the TI, or other simple inconvenience). Or the public is given money to take part in the GS session and stalke the TI. If the perps give money to take part in the GS session then who funds the GS sessions which happens 365 days a year and what is the magnitude of the money funded for gang stalking the TI. And who can fund so much money?</p>
<p>What is the magnitude of the fund received by the TI gang stalking system? How and from whom the TI gang stalking system receives fund?<br />
Considering the points discussed above the amount magnitude of fund required for gang stalking is huge and depends on severity of TI control the money required for gang stalking increases.</p>
<p>If the GS manager wants to organise the gang stalking activity for every day then they has to employ atleast a hundred for a medium severity control of TI. How much is the average living cost of a perp getting involved in the GS, say the average living cost of 4000$ for a month. And per day living cost will be around 130$, since the perps are normally part time workers then the cost will be less, so let us consider the cost is 100$ per day per perp involved in the gang stalking. So for 100 perps per day the cost will be 10000$ and per year cost would be 3600000$ (3.6 million dollars per year) only for part time workers. This cost is excluding the professionals like psychologist, public department resources, GS managers, GS perps mobilizers (cost for transportation), cost of the machines in the case of DEW, V2S or V2K and mind control and their operation cost. And cost for research for GS and aiding technologies? What is the cost for gang stalking across countries?What will be the total cost? What is the maximum money any non-governmental organization can collect? Will any non-governmental organization can fund the gangstalking activity which is so huge? Can the huge fund collection for gangstalking activity can happen covertly and won&#8217;t such a huge fund transfer get notified?</p>
<p>If the government funds GS then whom the fund is allocated to, is it done covertly? How the government is able to covertly allocate such a huge sum for only control or Gangstalke group of people and able to cover it up?</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Who is the authority of TI gang stalking system?</span><br />
By mapping these characteristics to the agencies we can come out with the answer about the type of agencies controlling the TI. Agencies can be secret service, law and enforcement, intelligence agency or etc.</p>
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<p><strong>What is the hierarchy of the TI gang stalking system?</strong><br />
This analysis considers that the TI gang stalking as legally done by the government.</p>
<p>If the GS is legal then social control will follow the same structure of the judicial system. In a judicial system, court is an entity independent of the police system. The court is responsible for analysing the truth of the case and provide verdict which is independent of the investigators opinion. Police system is responsible for investigating the case and to file the case against the concerned person and perception of the police is always pessimistic to suspect everyone possible.</p>
<p>Similarly the GS system if legal should also have a entity which is independent and decide whether to control and how much to control the TI and for this discussion lets call it as GS management system.</p>
<p>And the GS system also should have a entity to screen the public by conducting interview (covertly in the name of job interview) to find the required psychology in the population. Lets call this entity as GS operations group.</p>
<p>GS operations group after finding the required psychology, the profile and interview logs are given to the GS management system. The GS management system after evaluating the logs and characteristics of the TI decide whether to control the TI and how much to control based on the severity of the Control required.</p>
<p>Note that the severity of the Control required determines the amount pain to be inflicted on the TI and GS frequency (for every day or month).</p>
<p>After the verdict of the GS management system the social control of the TI is implemented by an entity whose aim is to plan the control for every day, decide which type and amount of control. Apart from social control the TI is often reevaluated for change in the psychology.</p>
<p><strong>Who does Gangstalking?</strong><br />
TI stalking are not some crooks harassing the TI for some mean reason, but the stalking are carefully planned by team of experts (psychological experts) and executed by carefully selected and trained agents. It is very clear that the stalking involves psychological concepts like NLP etc and the stalking is carefully planned by the experts in the psychological field.<br />
TI stalking is planned such a way the output (extreme states of the TI) are observed carefully(to find which NLP-anchor or harassment works with the target TI) and used in the next TI stalking. This suggest the stalking is organized as a part of the major activity that involves systematic communication, organization, planning, execution and with unlimited funding.</p>
<p>TI stalking are planned such that the stalking doesn&#8217;t leave any evidence or cannot be accepted as evidence (at least law and enforcement does not want to accept the evidence). The stalking and other assault are designed such that they does not leave evidence. Stalking organization is concerned about the evidence which can be produced judicially. What if a TI is able to produce a evidence which can be accepted judicially? Will the system(Government) if part of stalking will try to cover it up. Why any TI is not able to produce one? Or is the Government covering up the produced evidence?</p>
<p>Thinking about all the possible motive behind the stalking, the worst thing that could be the motive of the stalking could that the motive being legal and we TI being unable to understand or unable to get the information or reason behind the motive. If the motive is legal what could be the possible legal system that urge for harassment of the TIs. Is the system(stalking organization) is paranoid enough to commit stalking on innocent thinking that the innocent TI as threat to the organization or system. If the motive is legal then the real motive is not the harassment of the TIs, but it is a form of systematic control of the TIs life. Why should be a TI be controlled? Is TI is really a threat to the system?</p>
<p>The stalking organization seems to have unlimited access to the places of their interest and access the places used by the TI to gangstalke them. Only a organization with rights to access a place judicially can take control of the place and people in the accessed place should obey the organizations judicial order. Any other organization without a judicially order cannot take control of a place (used for TI stalking).</p>
<p>The organization involved in the TI stalking could be a legal organization with unlimited power(since they get support from local law and enforcement or since the local law and enforcement doesn&#8217;t accept the TI complaints). Amnesty International and other Union(EU, UNO) does not help the TI and Amnesty International cannot interfere TI stalking only If the TI stalkers and TI stalking is legal.</p>
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<p><strong>Who take part in TI gang stalking?</strong><br />
Though all the general public is convinced by the perps to take part in the stlaking of the TI. There is a closed group of the people who normally take part in the gang stalking. Except for the intervention officers like the Director or manager all the perps involve in the GS are part time workers for the GS system. This part time workers will have a main profession other than GS work and also involve in GS as part time work and earn. Often the part time GS workers are transferred to the different location from where one TI live to where other TIs live and they are used by the GS Director or manager to stalke the TI. This is a cycle to prevent the permanent enmity between the given stalkers and TI and lessens the threat for the gang stalkers.</p>
<p>But the intervention officers like the Director or manager involve in controlling the TI and do it as full time job. This intervention officers like the Director or manager have 24/7 logging of events of TI, plan the daily control of the TI, amount of GS, type of GS, amount of DEW attack and other forms of control. The Director or manager of TI social control</p>
<p><strong>How Gang Stalking sessions are planned, organised and executed?</strong></p>
<p>Each and every GS sessions are carefully researched for the agenda (amount of pain, control and type of control), possible outcome(Did the session meet the planned outcome) and feed back(how the TI reacted to the GS session).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Roles in the GS</span><br />
There are roles for each and every person involved in GS. The roles varies from Director or manager, assault group, diversion or mis-orientation group, observation or feed back group and theoretical analyses group.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Role of theoretical analyses group in GS:</span><br />
This group contains the permanent members of the GS system typically psychologist, law and enforcement officials, public department members, traffic constables and controllers and Director or manager of given GS session.</p>
<p>Responsibility of this group is to frame or plan the gang stalking session. There are several factors that are discussed in this session. First the gang stalking frame work from the legend (previous GS sessions) are used to frame the current GS session. By using the legend GS frame work this group reuse the GS model, for the given agenda they need not frame each and every actions in session, but only have to select from the list of GS legends frame work to plan for the current GS session. This has lot of advantages for example time is saved, no experts are required always to plan the GS session, man power used to plan is less etc. And the emphasis is given for the plan for execution of the GS session.</p>
<p>Based on the type and severity of TI the given legend GS frame work is selected. Once the legend GS frame work is selected then the group request for the resource for the execution of the GS session. The resource are normally part time workers (except the Director or manager of the GS session) who are compatible occupiers of the place in which the GS session is planned.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Role of Director or manager:</span><br />
This intervention officers like the Director or manager have 24/7 logging of events of TI, plan the daily control of the TI, amount of GS, type of GS, amount of DEW attack and other forms of control. The Director or manager of TI social control</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Role of psychologist:</span><br />
Psychologist take part in the design of the GS session. They design the GS session such that the GS effects in the psychological conditioning of the TI. This conditioning helps in the control of the TI. The psychologist also review the GS session and read the feedback from the TI to see how much the GS conditioned the TIs brain.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Law and enforcement officials:</span><br />
Law and enforcement officials are responsible for protecting the perps involved in the GS session. They clear the area and make sure place in which GS occurs is usable by the perps. They also prevent the external influence from outside.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Public department members and traffic constables:</span><br />
These people help the perps by clearing the place in which the GS occurs from the public and time share the place with the other public. After the GS session is completed or when the TI leaves the place the area is open to the public. When a public place is used by the perps the place is isolated by the Public department members and traffic constables to the public and controlled by these people.</p>
<p>Though almost all the members of each public department take part in the GS the session and the operation is kept secret from other members of the corresponding department.</p>
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<p><strong>Who are the targets of TI gang stalking system?<br />
</strong>TI gang stalking system is selective when they want to select the people for gang stalking. This implies that the system has limitation on doing gang stalking and it cannot be performed on all the general public and selection of people for gang stalking follows a strict procedure.</p>
<p>While analysing and researching about the selection of people for gang stalking, we have to think about what are the characteristics that the perps are looking for as a part of selection and the place where the selection takes place.</p>
<p>In this aspect following questions are to be answered.</p>
<p>Will the selection happens randomly? Is the selection is based on the gene of the people.<br />
If the selection process is not random and if it is systematic who would do the gang stalking and who would do the selection. Will both be the same persons?</p>
<p><strong>How blacklisting works?</strong><br />
This process should involve the evaluation of the psychology of the person, to check whether the persons behaviour matches unacceptable psychological models. If the psychology matches the abnormal behaviour framework then the person is included in the black list. Then the social control of the person will be exerted on the person for his life time. Normally the gene carries the psychological traits through the generations, hence his entire family including his children and his grand children will be automatically included in the social control, after evaluation of the psychology. If the member of the family shows less similarity on the traits of unacceptable psychological models then the severity of the social control will be less.</p>
<p>The stage or place at which the evaluation of the psychology could happen could be at job interviews or other interviews which any common person has to undergo. So that the entire population are evaluated at certain stage. But the evaluation of the psychology and its result could be concealed to the person to prevent manipulating the results of the evaluation by the person being evaluated. And also if the persons psychology matches the abnormal behaviour framework then social control will happen without the knowledge of the person under control.</p>
<p><strong>Types of Targeted Individual social control:</strong><br />
After the blacklisting as the first step in social control the person is prevented from involving in any political activities (which when the person involves pose a direct threat to the government if the person is Narcissistic).</p>
<p>Based on the severity of the social control, the control of life varies. Control involves time, how frequent the persons life should be controlled (social control could be for every year, every month, every day or every hour if the person social control severity is high). If the persons social control severity is very high, then the persons life is controlled for every minute.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Control based on the place:</span><br />
Control involves infiltrating the places (work place, school, clubs etc) where TI uses.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Control based on the person:<br />
</span>Control involves people, the TI intervention officers infiltrate as peer in the workplace, infiltrate as neighbours, infiltrate as friends and even force the family members to spy and control the TI.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Control also involves several other aspects:</span><br />
(1) Life is controlled by regulating the wealth, opportunities, social interactions, (2) Introduce complexities in the TIs life so that the person cannot conceive that the TI is in social control. By Introducing complexities in the TIs life, the TI will concentrate on only his life complexities and TI is prevented from observing the larger spectrum of life.<br />
(3) gang stalking the TI to explicitly introduce problems into TIs life and this is used only if the severity of the TI is beyond certain level.</p>
<p><strong>How the place of gang stalking is selected and managed?<br />
</strong>When the TI is gang stalked the TI is isolated from the general public and most of the time of gang stalking the TI will be surrounded by the perps. But not all the perps will be active, most of the perps will be inactive. Only certain perps will be active and harass or stalke the TI. In GS place all the neutral occupant are informed how to interact with the TI on confrontation and almost all the time there will be intervention officers accompany the TI and will be on hide among the passive perps.</p>
<p>Often the public places used by the TI is isolated from the general public when the TI uses the place. If the TI enters public place where large group of people share then the public place, then the public is moved and the public entering is diverted and the the place is time shared until the gang stalking is completed. When the TI is in the public place the general public is isolated or diverted away from the area where TI is. When the TI is in the isolated public place then the place can be used to display wrong facts about the world to TI (to provide misinformation to the TI) or used for stalking the TI. Once the TI leaves the place then the whole area is freed for the public.</p></div>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been quite a while since I posted anything in the blog here. Over the holidays something came up that I know only those who have lived with covert harassment might appreciate. Though I&#8217;ve cooled down about it since, I thought sharing would be appropriate since I&#8217;m sure there are others who have dealt with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been quite a while since I posted anything in the blog here. Over the holidays something came up that I know only those who have lived with covert harassment might appreciate. Though I&#8217;ve cooled down about it since, I thought sharing would be appropriate since I&#8217;m sure there are others who have dealt with similar issues, who may get something out of hearing about mine.</p>
<p>First a little backtracking to frame the recent experience having generally to do with unintentional gaslighting by family members. <span class="ext">For those who may not know, </span><strong>gaslighting</strong> is a form of intimidation or psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim, making them doubt their own memory and perception.</p>
<p>So over the last 2 years harassment has really died down for me. I have still seen isolated incidents here and there, particularly if it is an event I&#8217;m really looking forward to /plan for months in advance, but such is nothing compared to the extremes of the 3 preceding years.</p>
<p>Over the holidays we were staying with my parents. During the time there it occurred to me that I felt remarkably <em>like my old self</em>, enjoying time with family and such, as I hadn&#8217;t since 5 years ago. As many targeted folks experience, there was a period of discomfort and misunderstanding with family and closer friends, such that it became clear no one really wanted to know about the harassment I was experiencing. Over the years I&#8217;d come to an acceptance of this: people just don&#8217;t want to believe it&#8217;s possible. As a target, I know what it&#8217;s like to fight that realization, until it&#8217;s no longer avoidable, and <em>that</em> feat of accepting the only logical conclusion is with the impetus of wanting to understand what is happening to oneself. I imagine for someone who has not experienced such things, the only motivation is to understand what a loved one (or for the more compassionate, to understand what a fellow being) is going through. What I&#8217;ve discovered though, in the latter case, to the minds of people who are concerned about someone claiming to be targeted is that a simpler solution presents itself (than to open one&#8217;s mind to the possibility that orchestrated and covert harassment does happen): to decide that the person claiming such harassment is delusional &#8211;or some variation of psychological illness.</p>
<p>This conclusion jumping by family members is an aspect of covert harassment that tends to make family members more of a liability than a comfort or support system. Certainly, the ways in which covert harassment cultivate likely reactions like suspicion and wariness, have been quite effective in cutting targets off from their social support networks. The simple fact that no one else sees the harassment the target reports is most of the oomph with this side effect. In short, the last thing a target needs to deal with on top of harassment like break-ins, mobbing, et al psychological warfare tactics, is the gaslighting -however unintentional- by family members. The disbelief of family members plays right along with the intentional confusion-inducing angle of covert harassment. Even without such unconscious gaslighting assistance of family members, the task of making order and discerning truth from untruth is already a large undertaking for most targets. Add the disbelief and non-support of family members to the mix, and quickly a target is caught between two worlds: the darker one where previously unknown degrees of maliciousness have unfolded around the target, and the lighter one, where everything is explainable by PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder)&#8230; the draw to return to &#8216;normal life&#8217; is reinforced over and over again by family members (if they&#8217;ve stuck around that long).</p>
<p>For myself, the initial explosion of covert harassment occurred as an episode of drugging where the perpetrators generally messed around with my head, my memory, emotions, associations, all experiment with the only clear intention beyond open ended experimentation was to break me. That became clear early on. After this first episode I wound up in a hospital emergency room. After jumping through various ER and police hoops my mother and aunt picked me up and drove me to Houston. I suppose *because* this episode was so official in that I sought medical and police assistance..is why my family actually responded in a reasonable way -that is, they did not disbelieve my account and showed concern and asked questions, etc.</p>
<p>Two weeks after the first incident when I returned to Austin to try and find answers for the missing time and surfacing memories, during which similar drugging/experimenting happened again. It&#8217;s funny having to piece all this together since everyone -family and friends just shut down and didn&#8217;t want to talk about any of this. But, long story short, during all this I lived in North Texas -away from my family of origin. After spending a week or so in Houston, I headed back to my own home and got on about my life, or so I thought. I suppose around this second episode is when the theories / rumors of my having a drug problem arose. I remember even thinking how i could see how they&#8217;d come to such a conclusion, and talked with my parents to assure them that it wasn&#8217;t true.</p>
<p>Around this time (2005) it became evident that my mother had been calling around to my friends and acquaintances, investigating the drug suspicion on her own (creating much of it herself with other people I knew, thus cutting off much support from them as well). When I would ask a couple of people she&#8217;d called, they wouldn&#8217;t tell me anything, or get angry if I pushed for information. I bring this up to show one major vein of character assassination, and how such things mushroom&#8230;</p>
<p>Shortly after the second bout of covert drugging, it was time for Christmas gathering with family. During those holidays one night I was sitting in the garage with my mother and neighbor lady who was talking about the divorce she was just going through. As it seemed we were each sort of sharing a bit about the trials of the past year, I joined in and said something about my experiences having been drugged and assaulted. Suddenly my mother launches into this running rant about &#8216;why had I ever purchased ephedrine? she knows because friends of mine had seen me buy bottles of ephedrine.&#8217;  etc. She went on and on, ignoring the emotional content of what I was expressing, to jump to accusations. Could you get any closer to saying &#8216;whatever happened to you was your own fault. somehow drugs are connected, and that&#8217;s your fault&#8217; ? Not much. In front of the neighbor and everything, it&#8217;s made clear that we are not to discuss what happened because somehow it&#8217;s sordid drug stuff. She and my dad had been very caring after the first episode, asking me what had happened and talking for hours. But at that time I was in complete shock. It seems that all the odd things I reported having happened were also seen as evidence that drugs had been involved. Wherever the train jumped from &#8216;drugs were involved&#8217; to &#8217;so she has no valid complaints&#8217;.. I&#8217;m really not too clear on.</p>
<p>So after the first two drugging/assault experiences&#8230; I was having a bit of a bumpy ride what with the resurfacing memories, and dealing with the accompanying emotions. But I stuck it out, and had faith that with time the pieces would settle &#8211;at least *some* order would become apparent, I just had to have patience with myself and take care of myself. -it&#8217;s funny the smaller, but telling changes that harassment can bring about. During this time one day I realized I hadn&#8217;t brushed my teeth in a couple of weeks &#8211;<em>how is it that bit of habit just <strong>dropped</strong> after 27 years of 1-3 times daily teeth brushing</em>? -such things I would notice.</p>
<p>Going on with my life and this plan for regaining some semblance of balance in my life, one issue that I struggled with for a period of months just after those events was trouble going to sleep. I naturally have longer days than some people, and a tendency to handle stress from tiredness by going into overdrive -in these cases I would stay up until I was nearly exhausted. Quickly I realized I had to come up with some solutions or I would go crazy from lack of sleep. Because of the nature of mental hacking and manipulation, along with manipulation of my memories and sense of time during the drugging incidents, I felt insecure that I could even know for sure that *I* hadn&#8217;t left my apartment during the time I&#8217;d thought I&#8217;d been asleep. I mean these are some serious problems that have to be dealt with, reasonable reaction or not, temporary or not. So I got int the habit of taping hairs across doorway thresholds&#8230; little things that made me feel safe in going to sleep and knowing I hadn&#8217;t left nor had someone entered while I was sleeping.</p>
<p>This kind of hyper-vigilance eventually passed; point being that sleep was a major difficulty for some time, but to concerned family members, no matter how open and expressive I was about my difficulties, took such occurrences as signs supporting the theories of my having a drug problem. So, where support may have been forthcoming otherwise, it was withheld, or given reluctantly with odd statements of suspicion/accusation revolving around my alleged drug problem. For example, once when I was having a particularly difficult time of calming down enough to go to sleep when I was tired, I brought it up to my brother, hoping to maybe get some helpful advice. I did not expect the response I got. His response to my indicating that the trouble sleeping had happened since the drugging assaults, was that my story didn&#8217;t make sense because he remembered talking to me months before that had even happened and I&#8217;d said then how I&#8217;d been up for a couple of days. In one fell swoop it was made clear that he and probably other family members basically thought that any trouble I was having sleeping was not a pretty reasonable reaction to what I&#8217;d experienced, but just another symptom of my supposed drug use, which seemed to indicate to him that my problems were not real, were not worth conversation or further consideration. At the time it was a lonely feeling when he&#8217;s been very supportive and loving in generally throughout our lives together, yet I had bigger problems and things on my mind, so I just kept chugging along. I mean what else are you going to do?</p>
<p>A year after the first two events, when another &#8216;reveal&#8217; kind of trap was laid and I walked into it, more of the drug theory BS unfolded. Again, it was a very strange sensation to have to piece all this together myself more from what reluctant family members&#8217; and friends&#8217; did *not* say than the little they *would*. Long story short with this event, a neighbor had befriended me and started with the now well known mirroring tactics and such, but kept it light not to trigger my alarm bells, until one night when they sprung their trap which was a small group of people suddenly repeating things said to and by me during the drugging events the year earlier. That date pretty much marks the beginning of the proper gang stalking era of my experiences with covert harassment, and things went on to get all the more strange. That night, as I fled back to my apartment I hear the neighbor lady cackle, &#8220;where you gonna go now?&#8221; &#8211;as my first experience of more overt mind fuck operations involving neighbors / strangers.</p>
<p>About two weeks after this happened I&#8217;d pieced together some of the mechanics of getting people to participate in something like what i was experiencing, but I had no terms like &#8216;gang stalking&#8217; for it yet. I did not know that others had experienced it, etc. Around this time I called my mother. I had to tell *someone* what had happened to me. The response I got was that she was very busy preparing the Christmas turkey meal and she really didn&#8217;t have time to talk. What an odd response to hearing from your child that neighbors had threatened their life and they (me) were now still shaken up and not knowing what to do. I suppose I can see a general avoidance from the oddness of that previous year, but to outright dismiss a whole event like that could only mean that she didn&#8217;t believe it, or had found a way to dismiss it through the very handy drug problem theory. (which had started, btw, because drugs were found in my system at the hospital, and because during my mother&#8217;s investigations uncovered evidence that I&#8217;d experimented. Hardly reason to discount accounts of ongoing harassment, but I can&#8217;t judge, I can only tell how it has felt from my perspective).</p>
<p>This kind of ill timed/placed support was tolerable because I didn&#8217;t even live in the same city. I&#8217;d been living in other parts of Texas for several years. After the third attack, when many things started getting weird in my life (harassment), I decided to try moving back to Houston to be closer to family and friends. About 2.5 years after the original drugging event, an entirely new chapter of closer friends participating in harassment unfolded. This was the heaviest chapter of harassment with multiple layers of suggestion and psy warfare, over 100 players, more break-ins, you name it. Anyway, this time I was in the same city as my family so I reached out to them. During one period when things were very intense and my son was staying with me I asked to stay at my parents house. We stayed there for several weeks.</p>
<p>During this period I finally discovered some useful terms for learning more about covert harassment by entering all the weird occurrences and symptoms I was experiencing as one big list of words into Google. Wow, it had a name and others were experiencing the same things. This was a major breakthrough. Though I was experiencing various types of themed/covert death threats and all kinds of crazy stuff was happening to me, I felt I had some common ground, some evidence from others so that I could at least talk about these things with my family. I told them everything I knew, each bit of research that I turned up that shed some light on my experiences, etc. For a while they listened. Then they started avoiding the topics. There I was trying to figure out how to stay alive and safe, and my mother would abruptly change the topic or my dad would humor me, and a few times this became just as demoralizing as I realized it was more like testing how delusional I might be.</p>
<p>A few months go by and I deal with the crises. We, my boyfriend and I, come up with a game plan and patch up the friction and wounds that had happened as a result of all the stress. As I&#8217;m, once again, doing my best to go on with life, working, tending to personal relationships, the family rumor mill is still running behind the scenes. Before my bf and I had patched things up, during a fight, he let me know that my dad had called him concerned about my delusions, etc. At that point i&#8217;d had it with family. Over a period of a couple months we sent emails back and forth, mainly me telling them more and more things that had happened to me, and accounts of other TIs, and they would avoid, ignore. Finally, I had to put a stop to the cognitive dissonance, the living in two worlds: I told them either they could believe me and be supportive in at least not acting like these things had not happened to me, or I would have to remove myself from regular interaction with them.</p>
<p>There was one meeting where I talked with them after this. My mother didn&#8217;t want to be there talking about it. My dad had finally gone online in search of other TI sites, rather than just the &#8216;myth debunking&#8217; kinds of sites that say we&#8217;re all crazy. And so a tentative understanding was reached. There were a couple of times that I brought up that I thought they were just humoring me, but my mother made efforts to be more supportive and generally as I&#8217;ve gotten stronger and gained understanding, so too has my acceptance of others&#8217; lack of understanding increased. So, since then, when the stuff related to covert harassment comes up everyone gets a little quiet, or someone uncomfortably token acknowledges what I&#8217;ve said, then the subject is changed. So be it.</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;re up to date. So, this holiday season I was noticing how much more enjoyable the season and time with family was this year. I mean I was so far away from the horror and challenges of the previous 5 years, and had regained a center calmness some time ago, but something about this year&#8217;s holiday gatherings had me noticing just how much further I&#8217;d come and how much like myself I felt again. Since we&#8217;d reached the sort of mostly unspoken understanding to at least humor my delusions or however they might see these things, and I was feeling grateful for the current developments of enjoying time with family, I decided to bring this up to my mother. I meant it in the most positive way, and I&#8217;m sure she meant her response in the most positive way, yet&#8230;  Her response was that she was so glad I was happy again, and that &#8216;everyone has been very worried about you&#8217;. I ask, Who? Who are been worried about me? She responds that my grandmother and uncle, for example had commented on how unhappy I&#8217;d seemed. News to me. The last thing I remember regarding my grandmother was that we were not to tell her about what I&#8217;d experienced &#8211;she was not to know. period. So that meant just not really feeling motivated to stay connected with her, because how do you connect and not also share the whole huge chapter of life where people are harassing you for years on end? It&#8217;s not possible really.  So, I ask, &#8216;well I don&#8217;t even know what grandma and [my uncle] know about what happened to me. What do they know?&#8217;   she says, &#8216;well they know they those people in Austin really traumatized you and that it&#8217;s been very difficult for you&#8217;. Suddenly I&#8217;m overcome with many thoughts and feelings&#8230; So, you&#8217;re telling me that all those months when i was asking, practically begging, for help from family, and no one could give me the time of day or treat me like a reasonable adult&#8211; during this same period of time supposedly there were people concerned about me? hunh. because to my way of thinking and acting in the world, concern means bothering to empathize and find out more, or at least to not jump to conclusions and judgments about the person.</p>
<p>So the night went on and what had been intended from both sides to be a positive sharing, kept bubbling up in my mind and heart the rest of the evening. That night I talked with Chad and sort of got to the bottom of the emotions and shit surrounding the upheaval of the interaction. If I&#8217;d gotten accustomed to the idea of their not understanding, or not being able to believe all those things happened the way I said, then why was the interaction so upsetting to me? I mean it was certainly not the first time that my mother&#8217;s careful choosing of words showed that she was humoring me, she was tactically <em>*not-challenging* my beliefs </em>as a show of support. Perhaps my upset was from a fresh instance/impression of her not believing me, I thought. But as I talked with Chad I realized a few more angles of insight.</p>
<p>What really upset me -just got under my skin and got all those feelings of isolation and accusation churning again&#8211; was that in their minds, all the harassment reports over the last 3 years, to them, have been psychological symptoms (delusion) originating in the traumatic drugging experiences 5 years ago. To them, that first drugging episode (or 2?) were real, but nothing that has happened since is real -except in my mind, apparently. The thing that gets me is that what is also dismissed is how strong and stoic, how SUCCESSFUL I&#8217;ve been during and after every harassment event, the &#8216;real&#8217; and allegedly &#8216;imagined&#8217; instances alike. <strong>I </strong>was the one who pulled myself up and dealt with the psychological effects of the drugging. Yes, it was difficult, and yes it took some time during which my reality filters were certainly skewed a bit out of true from <em>consensus reality </em>anyway. BUT, I got through it. I sorted out fact from suggestion, sorted through all the memories and stupid clues, figured out the mechanics intended to break a person, and successfully avoided being broken. I did that.</p>
<p>Part of getting over that / healing, was to test myself and my associations, to be bold about looking internally and healing the mental/emotional associations as well as the more obvious things one does after being assaulted in order to regain some composure and sense of security. This meant purposely confronting negative associations/prejudices that tried to creep into my decision making after those drugging events. Put more succinctly, I know quite well how being tormented can change a person&#8217;s outlook on life. And I have learned a lot about how to re attune to positive things in life, how to recalibrate my reality filters &#8211;how we discern truth from fiction or lie, how we &#8216;test&#8217; our reality and theories about reality&#8211; to a neutral setting. how to sense signs that my perception is leaning toward fear-based reasoning, etc., and to readjust / recenter myself and keep going on about living and learning. I know how to trust my perception and intuition. I know when these are skewed and how to alleviate the situation. I know what I know is real; I know why it happens even, I&#8217;ve learned a lot of things about myself and the world, one of which is: I&#8217;m not delusional. but to someone who has no reference point for something, hearing about something outside just *is* crazy. It doesn&#8217;t matter what anyone else thinks because I&#8217;ve done all the work, I know which things are real and which are distraction, or experiment, or slander.And so what got to me about the interaction, is that along with all the times I could&#8217;ve used some moral support, there is zero recognition of all the work I&#8217;ve done. I mean the Austin stuff had nearly zero impact on how I judged the ongoing harassment that popped up later. I did the &#8216;healthy, normal&#8217; thing for a long time and kept ignoring all the different angles of harassment. To think of allll the various chapters and associated places and events that have laid out before me, showing a very different view of the world and how to live in/through it&#8230; and to these people who are supposed to be, and are, the closest people to me, it&#8217;s all some fucked up delusions and pathetic sorting of a sic individual, all revolving around one or two unfortunate incidences. As if I&#8217;m so fragile! There it is. At first I didn&#8217;t feel angry, just that familiar but forgotten deep ache of.. what? the distance between my experience and theirs so effectively blocking out mine completely. Later that night when I came to anger about it I looked at the ego angle of it all. I felt like if I were my mother I would bring it up.. i would qualify if with something like &#8216;i know this is not a pleasant topic, and I&#8217;m don&#8217;t say this to make you feel bad, but I want you to know some of my feelings&#8230;&#8217;  and I considered doing this a few times. But I just don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s room for it. For her or someone else attempting such a conversation might not come from ego in a non-progressive way, but for me, I decided, it would be. Yes, I just want to be understood, but no one can know exactly what it felt like all those times and places harassment has happened, so all I would be asking for, all that is likely to come of the interaction, is it will sound like blame for not having been more supportive. Or maybe I just couldn&#8217;t stand to revert to that horrible interaction where I bring up something important in my life only to see eyes glaze over, and the smooth shift to avoidance tactics. Fuck that. So here I am making notes of it for someone who might have a place where it&#8217;s useful perspective.</p>
<p>I know that I have a relatively well developed ability to be open minded, but also to remain grounded -these qualities go hand in hand (though the former lept ahead for a while as I had to sort through all the suggestion mind game materia). These qualities tend to make for collecting many fringe experiences that most people just don&#8217;t have room for in their view of reality. Which brings me to my main conclusion about the holiday positive interaction gone astray&#8230; yet another level of realization that these people (my family) simply do not have a reference point from which to begin to comprehend what I&#8217;ve experienced. They&#8217;re heroic feats (to my eye it seemed to take much effort rather than accepting my retelling of events) of lumping it all under post traumatic stress delusions is not meant to be closed minded/hearted, but really just the only reference point available to them.</p>
<p>Again, besides wanting to be supportive of someone else claiming to be experiencing covert harassment perhaps, it seems only the targets themselves have motivation to seek knowledge and understanding about such things. Sounds simple enough, this explanation of people like family members just not being capable of acknowledging these kinds of things happen, but I really could not see it as the rather simple avoidance mechanism that it is. My nature is to try and understand, to seek to understand other people&#8217;s perspectives and that which is unknown. Not everyone is like that.</p>
<p>Chad and I examined some traits of these seemingly two types of people, or where the threshold might lie. What rose to the surface is something I&#8217;ve considered before, but sunk in in a new deeper way: how stalkers and people who want to be helpful but still find it necessary to block out unpleasant bits of the world -how these two groups of people are quite similar in that they make knee-jerk judgments and decisions and so are more easily manipulated into adhering to popular theory or generally, such as being relatively easier to intimidate and manipulate. These people are more reactionary and less introspective. With greater introspection there is more capacity for confronting and assimilating unknown or uncomfortable information, there is also a more solid base from which to judge hearsay and intentions of others. When a person is relatively more emotionally and morally developed they are able to rely on what emotions indicate and generally have greater access to intuition and creative thinking. When a person is relatively more intellectually developed they are able to process more data without losing sight of the trees for the forest, or vice versa, there is a more solid base for comparing new input. One can see how being more developed in these aspects would make one less likely to fall for intimidation or luring to participate in the harassment of someone else, and also how such traits as creative thinking and advanced problem solving could make such people attractive/entertaining research and experimentation subjects. One can see how being less developed would lend to being more easily confused or intimidated if coerced into participation, or more willing if lured, as well as how some others might be unable to really take in the intellectual and emotional content and meaning underlying phenomena like covert harassment.</p>
<p>For the most reactionary people (this is a spectrum, we all have reactions) it&#8217;s seemingly all about entertainment. Must keep feeding that beast ego. There&#8217;s got to be something to watch, to listen to, to be fed. Honestly, for most stalkers, I think this says all there is to say about the motivation fueling their participation. Lives of consumption because who knows what will happen if they just stop and think for a minute. The sky might fall!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an us-and-them scenario. The kinds of trials that targeted folks go through are largely <em>internal</em> in that once you&#8217;ve won that war, the rest is follow through. Once you win back your own sense of identity and realize that what you make of life is entirely up to you, you can get back to doing just that, living life. This sounds trite, I know, and there is a lot of inner discovery and  work that is unique for each person, but perseverance and trust in yourself will see you through. For me part of this means sharing some of what I&#8217;ve learned. Just like the real challenge for TIs is an internal or psychological one, so too must we understand that we are not fighting <em>them</em> -the stalkers. We are all -stalkers and targets alike- fighting the same struggle. <strong>Some</strong> of us who are <em>winning</em> this personal though common struggle have become targets of harassment. Some of us who are not yet there, not up to the challenge, <strong>some</strong> of these people become stalkers. I know it&#8217;s tempting to see these great good versus evil forces and sides to things, but I have learned that real understanding includes moves like not hating or judging others too harshly for their transgressions because, after all, if they knew any better, their actions would show it.</p>
<p>Until these casualties of hive mind and exploits of groupthink become common knowledge and more light continues to be shed into these dark corners of the human condition, there is this period of tension between seeming extremes: the stalked and the stalkers. lol. Hang on, this too shall pass, and is <img src='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been meaning to check out some of Debbie Newhook&#8217;s conference call talk shows regarding covert harassment. Her talkshoe.com channel is called TI Activism. Tune into the next call/show to add your perspective and/or ask questions (visit the link for more info or to listen to past recordings).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to check out some of Debbie Newhook&#8217;s conference call talk shows regarding covert harassment. Her talkshoe.com channel is called <a href="http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/54307">TI Activism</a>. Tune into the next call/show to add your perspective and/or ask questions (visit the link for more info or to listen to past recordings).</p>
<p>I just got done listening to the September 6th, 2009 episode and wanted to touch on some of the topics discussed, as well as some of my related perspective. This is part of a series about &#8216;living in the now&#8217;, which takes place once a week for the next couple of weeks. The next event takes place on September 13, 2009 &#8211;if the time is the same, it will be at 7:00PM Eastern time.</p>
<p>Some topics discussed as I noted them while listening (not comprehensive list):</p>
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<li>Tug of war metaphor (the perps hold one end of the rope, the target holds the other -how to let go and the other tuggers tumble)</li>
<li>facing the conflict / negative emotions &#8211; (concept that meditation or these meditative-like techniques are not running from the problem, but confronting it)</li>
<li>find the pain mentally</li>
<li>organic thoughts/emotions can be used against a target &#8211; (using these types of attacks as opportunities to <em>clean up</em> those negative associations)</li>
<li>physical tactics used to trigger negative emotions to open attack channels -</li>
<li>releasing negative emotions as a shield -</li>
<li>what to do when attack channel is already open:find the center</li>
<li>Debbie talks about what she did to move from reactionism toward regaining her perspective, how meditation and visualization have played a big role in seeing a reduction in harassment</li>
<li>The last portion of the call show covers several participant&#8217;s questions and perspectives, and several bits of tactics and tech research/history are discussed, as well as some discussion about how to deal with family members who think the target is delusional.</li>
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<p>Along the lines of what to do when one finds themselves in the middle of an attack, Julian said many interesting things here about cases where one finds oneself awash in a deep negative emotion. He says that while sometimes there may be a clear thought that seems to be at the root of the <em>attack connection</em> [my phrase], he prefers to focus on the emotion itself because the thought is likely to have the effect of creating more emotion. &#8211;the idea here being to refind one&#8217;s center by finding where the attacks &#8216;got in&#8217; or connected with our own internal beliefs so that we began to confuse between the two (internal and external thoughts) -at which point, oftentimes simple exploration like this renders the attack impotent.</p>
<p>I think both Debbie and Julian have some very helpful insight about these kinds of experiences. I would add that for me, what has happened during several instances like this where I&#8217;m suddenly overwhelmed with fear and horrific thoughts, as difficult as it has been I just keep looking through the warped lens, and eventually this helps me  see how absurd or illogical it is. Slowly but surely my stronger Knowns shine through and I can start putting the extreme emotion in perspective.</p>
<p>Case in point: Just before I finally googled-out a label &#8216;gang stalking&#8217; for what I&#8217;d been experiencing for about 3 years at the time, I was attending a Skinny Puppy concert here in Houston. Five or six people had planted themselves around me so as to bring up themed conversation, with one being more of a key player meant to deliver the more meaningful triggers as things unfolded. I even engaged some of these people in friendly conversation since it seemed like that&#8217;s what they wanted, bringing up &#8217;synchronistic&#8217; places/people &#8211;I was really just oblivious (though it was a bit unlikely, the synchronous mentionings) at that point and had been trying hard not to let the very negative experiences of the prior 3 years color my experience (turns out ignoring the problem doesn&#8217;t make it go away, as effective as it can be to ignore stalkers themselves ;P). Mostly I tuned them out once things got started because I was there to see SP!</p>
<p>Some time into the concert there was shoving from these people though no one else there was really in a shoving mood. I rolled with this, but a while later started feeling strong currents of foreboding. Just feelings of imminent danger and dare I say, <em>evil</em>. There is no explaining, it&#8217;s just a wave of irresistible suggestion to feel like something really terrible and bloody is about to happen and it&#8217;s aimed at me&#8211; that&#8217;s all the emotion had to offer my perspective when it first hit. I&#8217;d felt this before at larger gatherings with more free form expression going on, like concerts during this period of time, so it wasn&#8217;t completely new (I think this is manufactured coincidence more than says something about the airways being more open at such events &#8211;though I DO think the latter tends to be true as well // I think that some of these artistic events attract some very interesting dynamics).</p>
<p>As in the other situations, I removed myself from the situation and found a relatively quieter spot in a bathroom stall and just tried to figure out what the fuck had tipped things on their side. It&#8217;s difficult to describe to someone who has not felt something like this, but it&#8217;s not as though the power of thought, will or perspective enters in here when one of these attacks is launched, they must be encouraged, as this type of fugue state is being afloat in suddenly turbulent seas -it takes a moment or several to find one&#8217;s bearings again. As I sat there, the dreadful emotions not going anywhere, though the intensity had died down once I was alone, I started to see <strong>the effects of the thoughts and emotions I was having</strong>. I knew that it was exceedingly unlikely that a large group of people would all turn against me, yet these thoughts and emotions were trying to convince me that any moment they would all swarm and &#8230;[several very vivid and horrible scenarios tried to play out in my mind's eye]. So, in this case, I still felt the extreme emotions, but as I just analyzed them and the external factors, they started having less and less impact on my experience of reality &#8211;the illusion began to dissipate. . .</p>
<p>As  I walked out of the bathroom I noticed the twinges of these thoughts and emotions reflecting back at me from the people I passed by. I played at seeing through the lens of <em>&#8216;extreme persecution&#8217;</em>, and saw how that colored things, then switched to &#8216;<em>persecution doesn&#8217;t exist</em>&#8216; lens, and saw how that colored my experience or impression of the next people I passed. By the time I made it back to my spot in the crowd, I was still shaken up, but there was a release, as Julian describes in this talk show. I was able to stand there among the barbs and arrows being flung from the &#8216;perps&#8217; situated around me, see around/above it all, tune back into the beautiful flowing experience of the music, and see an even deeper layer to this music I love and how it comments on exactly this type of dynamic, grateful tears for that &#8216;now&#8217; and understanding. Eh, on a side note, I could have just physically moved to a different spot, but I hadn&#8217;t really believed or understood that the physical positioning was a big factor, helping to create an illusion of greater power behind the negative messages, and could have been short circuited by simply moving across the floor to another spot. For what it&#8217;s worth, though, seeing through it while being surrounded by it, was a big opportunity so it happened the way it needed to, apparently. )</p>
<p>Getting back to the most recent talk show, Julian brings up a very useful point &#8211;sometimes these types of attacks are thoughts that are projected toward a target, but sometimes they simply remind the target of their own past negative emotion. He says that we might as well use it as an opportunity to clean up those associations so that the next time that past event comes up it will not be as clouded by the negative associations and emotion. I agree/relate very much with what Julian said about having slowed the mind down enough to begin to see the difference between the internal and external thoughts/influences, or how external ones might repeat like a rhythmic reminder &#8211;seeing that there are various traits or ways that thoughts present themselves which give them away as not being our own consciously piloted mental focus. In a way, each external thought interjection comes in a complete little package. If you look closely enough you can see a alot about underlying motivation, what the goal of the program is, even who sent it, or which part of your mind it was able to plugin into and cause such upset.</p>
<p>More practically speaking, Julian frames the technique one might use in one of these situations of being overwhelmed by negative thoughts and/or emotions. He says that if there is a definite strong emotion, to stare into the emotion until you find &#8216;the now&#8217; (find the closest clear negative emotion). If the emotion is not strong or clear, find a thought that seems connected to how the attack unfolded. I think the reasoning is the same, though he uses different descriptors -the idea is to take a step back so that you can compare the thoughts and emotions with the rest of your normal knowledge and ability to think critically. As Julian said, when you&#8217;re in the now, it&#8217;s like getting a fresh start. The thoughts stop and you can see from a greater vantage point.</p>
<p>Another key flavor of this kind of negative interference is where everything starts &#8216;taking on meaning&#8217;, as Julian says. I know this one quite well. As discussed in the talk show, the term &#8216;technology&#8217; is used to describe the means through which these kinds of negative interjections are aimed into one&#8217;s thoughts and emotions. Some people feel that physical (harware) technology is used, and others that it is all mental. I think that the &#8216;technology&#8217; is rather an aspect of nature, and as some learn to utilize these frequencies of suggestion, they decide to use them to control others, and this forms a catalyst for target&#8217;s to develop their own understanding of these frequencies, which involves -at some level- learning to distinguish between organic and manufactured thoughts and emotions. I agree that it&#8217;s like a computer or database of my weaknesses or likes/dislikes takes over when a negative loop is generated through triggering &#8211;after several interactions like this it was as if I was interacting with a sentient program, or agent handler. sort of off-topic, so I&#8217;ll leave of from that tangent for now.</p>
<p><strong>how to find<em> the now</em> in any situation</strong></p>
<p>A key point in the talk show is Julian&#8217;s suggestion about how one might deal with a situation where a target is someplace where they begin to feel this type of <em>slanting of perspective</em> where everything begins to take on heavy meaning -words spoken, connections in printed words on a sign, or lyrics to the song playing, etc. He says that as soon as you feel this change, tune into your body. Feel the chair you are sitting in. Feel the objects on the table you&#8217;re sitting at. Take a drink of your coffee and experience the taste of it. By fully engaging oneself in your own activities and sensations, without judgment, this provides a natural shielding against any attack&#8211; if you remove your mind from the tug-of-war, the tuggers on that end tumble // there is no <em>purchase point</em>, no connection through which an attack can fully manifest.</p>
<p>Of course the above is an example, and the available props or sensations in your case will be different. This can also be practiced at any time by focusing on the regular mundane activities that we do each day. When you are washing the dishes, wash the dishes, when you are sweeping the floor, sweep the floor. The effect seems to be that focusing on &#8216;the now&#8217; cuts off all worry related to living in the past or anticipating the future.</p>
<p>I tend to really get into the deeper philosophical stuff, and Julian happened to talk more from this angle, so I commented on those a lot, but don&#8217;t mean to take away from what Debbie talked about. Her views on the personal development that she&#8217;s experienced are very interesting and potentially useful for other TIs to resonate with. I also find her explorations of how organized stalking is connected to spiritual development to be very interesting.</p>
<p>Anyway, check out the talk show if you&#8217;d like to hear more about these topics. Pretty exciting project Debbie has undertaken. To Debbie- Thanks for organizing and providing this venue for TIs to connect and compare perspective. To readers- <a href="http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/54307">Tune into the next call/show to add your perspective and/or ask questions</a> and check out Debbie&#8217;s website: <a href="http://osnanaimo.org/">http://osnanaimo.org/</a> . Also, feel free to register for the forums on this site and add your perspective about the show to <a href="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/forums-entry/forums/experiencesandsupport/ti-activism-talkshoe-1/">this thread</a> (you must be a member to see the forums -<a href="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-login.php?action=register&amp;view=forum">register here</a>).</p>
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		<title>A and B Influences: The Process</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mouravieff uses the terms A and B Influences as useful labels or containers for various external and internal influences (respectively). Tuning into A influences keeps one plugged into and ruled by external influences, ruled by Chance. B influences are those which introduce and inspire  free will and conscious decision making based on introspection. Tuning [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='series_toc'><h5>Part of the '<b>Esoteric Teachings and Covert Oppression</b>' Series</h5><ol><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/esoteric-teachings-and-covert-oppression/' title='Esoteric Teachings and Covert Oppression'>Esoteric Teachings and Covert Oppression</a></li><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/the-general-law-and-the-law-of-exception/' title='The General Law and The Law of Exception'>The General Law and The Law of Exception</a></li><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/types-of-general-law-pressure/' title='Types of General Law Pressure'>Types of General Law Pressure</a></li><li class="current-list-item"><b>A and B Influences: The Process</b></li><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/personality-versus-essence/' title='Personality versus Essence'>Personality versus Essence</a></li></ol></div> <p>Mouravieff uses the terms <em>A and B Influences</em> as useful labels or containers for various <em>external</em> and <em>internal</em> influences (respectively). Tuning into <em>A influences</em> keeps one plugged into and ruled by external influences, ruled by Chance. <em>B influences</em> are those which introduce and inspire  free will and conscious decision making based on introspection. Tuning into <em>B influences</em> encourages the development of a &#8216;real I&#8217; as opposed to the fickle, ephemeral mixture of myriad  &#8216;little I&#8217;s which <em>external man</em> is ruled by.</p>
<p>As Mouravieff says in his Gnosis series,</p>
<blockquote><p>In esoteric teaching this figure could be said to be the <em>most important</em>. It incorporates a multitude of ideas; far more than the comments we are about to give. That is why we must return to it often and meditate upon it.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" style="border: 1px solid black;" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mouravieff-fig-20.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="212" /></p>
<p>The large circle is life (the World). The little black arrows are <em>A influences</em>. The white arrows are <em>B influences</em>. As humans we are bombarded with many external (A) influences. With covert oppression, the A influences can come from anywhere, but the <em>arrows</em> that are closest to us will have the largest effects.</p>
<blockquote><p>The black arrows represent influences created within life by life itself.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you look closely, you&#8217;ll see there for every black arrow there is another pointing in the opposite direction, canceling each other out. Being controlled by A influences doesn&#8217;t get a person anywhere, and so A influences are illusory. Mouravieff referred to the force that generates these influences as<em> the General Law</em>. The white arrows however are all pointing in one direction. These are B influences –the internal influences as developed through introspection. The force that generates B influences is referred to as the <em>Law of Exception</em>.</p>
<p>Each of the three circles is an example of the progress of one of the main <em>centers</em> (intellectual, emotional, motor) comprising a person. The whiteness is what Mouravieff called the &#8216;magnetic center&#8217; -it is the concentration of greater Consciousness. This develops as a person grows, and is triggered by great shocks (can you say gang stalking,alien abduction, etc).</p>
<p>It may first appear as chunks of greater order within each of the centers, but if a person develops the ability to discern B influences and tune into them, it grows into a lasting <em>real I</em>. Mouravieff talks about the shocks as being the fire that melts the various little I&#8217;s into a <em>magnetic center</em>. As with everything else, this development happens in degrees. One cross section of this process is the move from Personality (the self image that is projected onto us and made up of several smaller &#8216;I&#8217;s), toward greater liberation and consciousness -the shaded areas represent all the little I&#8217;s –the external influences that have effected our Personality.</p>
<p>Gurdjieff talks about the same ideas and says that the Personality is a protective shell that grows around the Essence or true Self. As we develop, we eventually outgrow the system, and so the system responds by trying to regulate us through any means possible. If we really start to understand how connected we are to the environment in which we live, this is not so difficult to see as being just like the physical body regulating cells with hormones and various chemical injections -Mouravieff&#8217;s model.</p>
<p>Moving from the General Law to the Law of Exception seems to involve a lot of sorting // introspection, and is the main goal of Fourth Way and other esoteric studies. -There are many angles to explore that seem helpful in understanding what can feel like a whirlwind of new input and daunting obstacles, and I think this post is a great tie-in…so back to the post at hand…</p>
<h3>The Magnetic Center</h3>
<p>Before the formation of a magnetic center, a person and their personality is like a container filled with many disparate elements // <em>iron filing</em>s. The Way, which is many things and a unique process for each person, involves things like sorting through the lower centers and competing input from external sources in order to become truly introspective and able to consider each mode of the lower centers from a detached vantage point. This stage draws to one the shocks that begin to make order out of all the isolated aspects of being. The <em>shocks </em>that nudge a person to keep developing are represented by the flames in the figure below. The last figure is not usually featured with the first two. I include it here to show an example of the beginning of a magnetic center forming, but still largely influenced by portions of the three centers, such as a magnetic center begins to form in the intellectual center, and the emotional center, but not to the point that they are able to connect with each other in such a way that the real I is ruler of the lower centers. Progress is progress&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" title="mouravieff-fig-1-2-12" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-1-2-12.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-1-2-12" width="280" height="474" /></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">We do not register the messages from the higher centres, which are ceaselessly working in us at full capacity. this is not only because out lower centres are under-developed, but also because they are not equilibrated. We must therefore apply ourselves to stimulate the growth of the Personality within us, and to equilibrate and regulate the work of our three centres. By the intensive practice of self-observation, we must try hard to distinguish the work of each centre within us, then the work of their two parts, and lastly of their sectors. So we enter within ourselves.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">So these shocks such as gang stalking and etheric interference occur. The state and process of Introspection painstakingly takes us through the process of sorting through the various inputs (purely intellectual, intellectual-emotional, intellectual-motor, and so on, with negative versions of each set, making up the 6 sectors of each lower center). It (the circle of Life) tends to provide us with a lot of General Law Pressure, which intensifies the shocks and the impetus to sort through the Personality.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">There are always A and B influences in this life, but particularly during periods of shock, we are able to see a larger perspective of the A influences, which removes some of their ability to affect us, and also begin to see and tune into more B influences.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The risk is that during this critical <em>window of opportunity</em>, the seemingly contradictory information coming from external and internal sources, and the seemingly conflicting natures of our <a href="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/personality-versus-essence/">personality and true Self</a>, can be so daunting that we crumble under the pressure and return to being influenced primarily by A influences.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">The Process</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;">This phase in the development of individuals involves great shocks, streams of previously unknown information coming in, the need to distinguish more decidedly between external and internal influences as these things are all sorted through. We each have our own unique ways of tackling this process. For some it&#8217;s very conscious and intellectual and diagramming things can help, for some it&#8217;s very subconscious and dream work and journaling help a lot. There are endless possibilities of how these challenges and opportunities may arise and be utilized for each person.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Typically, the process involves multiple <a class="ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul">Dark Nights of the Soul</a>. After all, it&#8217;s difficult to sort through all the functions and aspects of self, though largely it&#8217;s a matter of patience and persistence. Naturally, these lower points in the process can be extremely daunting. I try to remember that eventually new information settles and finds a place of meaning, and try not to give into extreme first impressions of such new perspective. For example, if you&#8217;re wavering back and forth between thinking one thing about a situation and some completely different impression of the same situation one some other hand, this is a sign that some new, larger perspective is being born, but because we do not yet have the experiential pieces to interpret it, our mind does the best it can with black and white symbolism / dualism. The subject of the second guessing is often symbolic, in this case perhaps implying that the person one is considering to be a possible agent though we are very unsure because the rest of the time they seem normal&#8230; is probably not involved consciously, but is an example of A influences coming from those closest to us in our lives // vectors of the General Law. <strong>Again, there are infinite possible psychological effects and phenomena that can occur during this stage. Many great works of art are expressions of this great work of sorting. </strong>In scanning the bookshelf just now a Rimbaud book sort of leaped out, and so here is a fine sample of [what he calls] <em>A Season in Hell</em>:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Once, If I remember well, my life was a feast where all hearts opened and all wines flowed.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">One evening I seated Beauty on my knees. And I found her bitter. I cursed her.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I armed myself against justice.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I fled. O Witches, Misery, Hate, to you has my treasure been entrusted!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I contrived to purge my mind of all human hope. On all joy, to strangle it, I pounced with the stealth of a wild beast.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I called to the executioners while dying to let me gnaw on the buttends of their guns. I called to he plagues to smother me in blood, in sand. misfortune was my God. I laid myself down in mud. I dried myself in the air of crime. I played sly tricks on madness.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And spring brought me the idiot&#8217;s frightful laughter.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Now, only recenly, being on the point of giving my last croak, I thought of looking for the key to the ancient feast where I might find my appetite again.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Charity is that key. &#8211;This inspiration proves that i have dreamed!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">To me this describes several aspects of this sorting &#8230; a strong impression of B influences (the ancient feast). The crisis of seeing that Beauty was not all it was cracked up to be, the realization that much of what has comprised a sense of Identity has been built on B influences, on lies meant to hold us pacified, <em>in our place</em>. Reconsidering all the truths and standards we&#8217;d previously accepted. The madness is a comment on sorting through all the A influences, trying to make them <em>fit</em> into a world where the B influences are also true. It&#8217;s enough to drive one crazy until we realize that, practically speaking, the only progressive purpose of A influences is to define and better distinguish the B influences (&#8230;<em>now, only recently, being on the point of giving my last croak, I thought of looking for the key to the ancient feast&#8230;</em>).</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">Incorrectly Discerning A and B Influences</h3>
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<p style="text-align: left;">One  possible outcome of incorrectly distinguishing A from B influences is the formation of what Mouravieff called <em>black magnetic centers:</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-923" title="mouravieff-fig-21" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-21.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-21" width="268" height="214" /></em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;represents the situation where man deludes himself and, believing he is absorbing B influences and making the necessary selection all the while, he in fact absorbs A influences, those of the black arrows that are in some way parallel to the white arrows of the B influences. This will put him into contact with people who possess magnetic centres of the same nature: who are themselves duped or who dupe others, and who have no direct or indirect link with the esoteric Centre.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">I think anyone who has experienced covert harassment can find several examples of this in the activity of the stalker-critters. Some of them truly do believe they are righteously following some right and true <em>narrow path, </em>when in reality they are influenced only by A influences. Signs of this situation are people who take part in gang stalking activities because they believe that they are somehow helping to <em>punish</em> or <em>keep an eye on</em> some dangerous or undesirable individual.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Another possible outcome is that, though one receives many shocks and starts the work of looking more deeply at themselves, eventually A influences overtake the B influences. If the person feels it&#8217;s easier to go back to sleep and ignores the B influences, the magnetic center can be reabsorbed by the lower centers. Not to be confused with the very normal lulls and troughs in normal development through this stage.</p>
<p>If a person is able to ride out all the crazy effects of General Law pressure and the various lenses of perspective that we navigate as we make order of the various types of input and introspection, reactionism and free will, one will successfully generate a magnetic center. The magnetic center is a lasting <em>I</em> that will help the person to gather deeper insight from B influences. This is the first step to attaining true Consciousness.</p>
<p>During this stage, the trials and dark nights tend to cause a great amount and experience of isolation. As our views of the world change we find that our acquaintances are no longer relevant, or perhaps even act as vectors of attack. As TIs we have trouble explaining our experiences to others who have not had similar experiences. We are often disbelieved, or doubted, and labeled delusional. Besides all these kinds of challenges, the very act of turning inward and engaging Introspection in order to sort through all the surreal events, can add to a feeling of isolation.</p>
<p>This is the straight and narrow path, the gauntlet between the Law of Accident and true Will, it is a very personal journey that we must each make on our own and man are there some interesting effects and lessons along the way, though once we have developed a relatively solid understanding of your own Process, we can start to connect in meaningful ways with others who have also found larger perspectives and greater freedom along with the intense challenges and obstacles that manifest in one&#8217;s life.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img style="border: 1px solid black;" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mouravieff-fig-20.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="212" /></p>
<blockquote><p>Since A influences neutralize each other, B influences actually constitute the only reality.</p>
<p>the small circle with the shaded lines represents man, who in this figure is taken in isolation. The oblique shaded lines signify that the nature of <em>exterior </em>man is not homogeneous: it is mixed.</p>
<p>If man spends his life without distinguishing between A and B influences, he will end it as he started one could say mechanically, driven by the <em>Law of Accident</em>. However, according to the nature and the intensity of the resultant forces to which he is subjected, it can happen to him to make a brilliant career, in the meaning the world gives to this expression.</p>
<p>Yet he will come to the end of this days without having either learned or understood anything of <em>Reality</em>. And <em>earth returns to Earth</em>.</p>
<p>In life, every being is subjected to a sort of competitive test. If he discerns the existence of the B influences; if he acquires a taste for gathering and absorbing them; if he continually aspires to assimilate them better; his mixed inner nature will slowly undergo a certain kind of evolution. And if the efforts which he makes to absorb the B influences are constant and sufficient in force, a <em>magnetic center </em>can be formed within him. This <em>magnetic center </em>is represented in the diagram by the small white space.</p>
<p>If this centre once born in him is carefully developed, it takes form, and in its turn will exercise an influence over the results of the A arrows which are always active, deflecting them. Such a deflection may be violent. In general it transgresses the laws of <em>exterior </em>life and provokes many conflicts in and around man. If he loses the battle, he emerges with the conviction that the B influences are nothing but illusion: that the only reality is represented by the A influences. Slowly the magnetic center which had been formed within him is reabsorbed and vanishes. Then, from the esoteric point of view, his situation is worse than the one he had started with, when he was just beginning to discern the B influences.</p>
<p>But if he emerges a winner in this first struggle, his magnetic centre, consolidated and reinforced, will draw him to a man having a <em>C </em>influence stronger than his own, and possessing a stronger <em>magnetic center</em>. And so on in succession, the last man being in connection with another having an influence <em>D</em>, who will be his link with the Esoteric Centre <em>E. </em></p>
<p><strong>Henceforth in life, that man will no longer be isolated. He will certainly continue to live as before under the action of the A influence, which for a long time will continue to exercise their power over him; yet little by little, thanks to the effect of the influence of the chain <em>B</em> &#8211; <em>C -</em> <em>D </em>- <em>E</em>, his <em>magnetic centre</em> will develop.<em> </em>To the measure of its growth, the man will escape the dominion of the Law of Chance and enter the domain of Consciousness.</strong></p></blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time back, a forum member mentioned they would like to hear more about how STS leader types mimic the traits of targets, particularly how these  maneuvers can effect a complete reversal between the <em>consensus persona</em> projected onto a target and that projected onto the STS leader type: the target is accused of many of the specific wrongdoings or shortcomings the STS leader has or has done, and the STS leader type walks around with the illusion of kindness, fairness, conscientiousness, the traits that many targets possess genuinely. The following is my understanding of this <em>switcheroo</em>, and the circuit that effects said switcheroo.</p>
<p><strong>For anyone new to the topic</strong>,<br />
the intimidation tactic called <em>mirroring</em> (or <em>echoing</em>) is where the actions and/or spoken words of a target are mimicked -mirrored back at the target. <em>Mirroring</em> is the copying of visible actions such as positioning, movement, and so on of a target, whereas <em>echoing</em> is the repeating of words or phrases a target speaks (though the term <em>mirroring </em>is often used for both).</p>
<p>Most of us can relate the the simple effectiveness of mirroring from the times we&#8217;ve been mimicked or have mimicked others, repeating everything they say with the intention to annoy. Even these rather innocent games can quickly become annoying and capable of elevating stress reactions. When taken to a larger scale, mirroring is a tactic that can effectively address one of the main agendas of organized stalking so long as a target is unaware of the mechanics, which is to destabilize and undermine the target&#8217;s basic <strong>reality testing</strong>. Reality testing is a continuous process of  compiling our view of the world; how our internal model and external experiences connect / match-up. When a person begins to doubt their ability to make reasonable models of the external world, this can cause a number of negative effects, such as lowered self-esteem, confusion, stress and depression, but overall, the result is <strong>increased isolation</strong>. <em>Gaslighting</em> is the term often used to describe any such attempt at inducing confusion in another person.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to tell what each person&#8217;s reaction will be to mirroring tactics, but it can be said that even the more unaware targets will sense mirroring as some kind of attack or &#8217;social correction&#8217;. For these people who have not experienced enough of these tactics to form an understanding, mirroring (or gaslighting in general) may appear to be just stronger versions of the social cues that many people are accustomed to taking as hints about &#8220;how people are supposed to behave&#8221;. If enough people tell the target the same set of messages about <em>what they are doing wrong</em>, and <em>what they should be doing differently</em>, the generally ethical (though unaware) person is likely to do their best to consider the criticisms and see if there is any truth. After all, they keep getting similar messages from many people, <em>so there must be some truth to them somewhere, right?</em> Not necessarily. If you&#8217;re experiencing a lot of <em>wrong feeling</em> interactions and keep trying to point the finger at yourself -your perception, etc, chances are your introspection is being used against you.</p>
<h3>Polarities and Circuits</h3>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-811" title="poles-and-circuit" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/poles-and-circuit.jpg" alt="poles-and-circuit" width="283" height="186" />The perpetrators are the real targets or <em>resource</em>, whereas the targeted individual and the leader types behind the perpetrators are like the poles in an electrical circuit.</p>
<p>Each of the three components completes the circuit. If any one piece is missing the circuit breaks down and the current, in this case a current of oppression, no longer flows. It&#8217;s up to the target to break the circuit: most of the perps don&#8217;t know there is a circuit and the STS handler/leaders don&#8217;t want it to stop.</p>
<p><strong>The perpetrators</strong>, for the most part, are easily influenced and rely on social cues and indoctrination on a daily basis. They readily take in disinformation and indoctrinating perspectives from many sources, so it&#8217;s not very difficult to feed them specific ideas with very targeted effects. Whether through believed slander, malicious intent stoked by manufactured insults believed to have come from the target, or fear of attack if they do not take part in the harassment of a target, <strong>the bulk of perpetrators are largely unaware of the real games being played and how they&#8217;re being manipulated</strong>; as such they can rather aptly labeled <em>puppets </em>because they are animated by energy that comes from a source other than their own perception, critical analysis or introspection.</p>
<h3>Breaking the Circuit</h3>
<p>Technically speaking, the circuit can be broken if the perp puppets become aware of the manipulation, yet focusing on educating those who have become perpetrators of organized stalking is not the most effective way of breaking the circuit in the short term because if they were able to see the mechanics at this point they would be able to make more rational decisions // they would not have participated in the first place. In the long term, education of the public <strong>will </strong>make a difference in increasing awareness of everyone and so arm them with knowledge that will help them make better choices, yet all we can do is share what we know, everyone is not <em>on the same schedule</em>, as it were.</p>
<p><strong>The STS Organizer/leader type </strong>can&#8217;t be taken out of the circuit directly, mainly because they don&#8217;t want it to stop -they are living off of the circuit. And fighting fire with fire does no good, it only feeds the circuit more negative energy. We all have negative emotional reactions to being treated badly, yet once one recognizes the psychological warfare tactics being used it&#8217;s much easier not to feed the circuit, to even channel negative responses to being treated badly toward other progress, toward a beneficial circuit.</p>
<p><strong>The Target</strong>, as the most developed component of the circuit (the one who processes stuff from the negative pole and the perps&#8217; collective yuck as well), is the only one who can effectively break the circuit when it tries to manifest. Of course the intent of stopping the circuit is something only the target has. STS leader types may send their messages and manipulate relatively less aware people into becoming perpetrators, but the <strong>target is the gatekeeper who determines whether the circuit continues or not</strong>. Don&#8217;t misunderstand, nefarious beings can still try to attack a target, but the real purpose and power for the STS leader type is in the number of Perp Puppets they can pool and control, so if a target does not make a good example of being fearful, wrathful, desperate, etc, they do not make a good positive pole, and so they are not a good material component for making a circuit.</p>
<h3>Introspection</h3>
<p>Targets of gang stalking tend to have in common with each other capacities for great compassion and altruism, and tend to be quite introspective as well. How are these qualities connected? I believe that as an individual makes sense of the world and becomes more fully individuated, eventually it becomes clear that the most rational decisions are based on consideration of others needs in addition to their own. Whereas 2nd density critters (most animals) base their decisions primarily on survival of self, more developed beings are able to take in more information in the form of sensation and thought. It becomes more interesting and profitable to form groups with others. To do so, empathy must be developed, and along the way to true empathy is <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sympathy"><em>sympathy</em></a> (I linked to the definition, as worth consideration in trying to understand the difference between those who become stalker-pawns and those who become targets; the difference between sympathy and empathy), <em>sympathy</em> itself being a type of <em>mirroring</em>.</p>
<p>When a person experiences gang stalking tactics like gaslighting and mirroring they begin to take in and process a lot of <em>other peoples&#8217; stuff</em>. Being introspective people, willing and able to go that extra step in considering a larger perspective, as TIs, we&#8217;ve got our work cut out for us. I believe that one of the main tasks of a TI is to successfully sort through this cacophony of new input, which oftentimes comes down to being able to discern the source of emotions and thoughts as <strong>originating with the self</strong> or <strong>coming from some other source</strong>. Suddenly (or at some point when harassment comes to a boil), there is a lot of input that doesn&#8217;t clearly belong in either category, we&#8217;re confronted with various layers of social interaction that are rather murky as measured by our sensors up-to-that-point. Along the way it seems par-for-the-course that we sometimes try to <em>own what isn&#8217;t ours</em>; we try to shove something negative that is coming from outside us into the &#8216;originating with the self&#8217; category. It goes without saying that another thing that happens a lot during this process is that we try to introject the negative traits of perpetrators into our own self image; that is, we&#8217;re open to seeing how we ourselves are not without some of the same flaws (even if to a much smaller degree).<em> </em><strong>This <em>sorting</em></strong> is not an easy task and there is no clear course through it except to trust in yourself and the process.<em> </em>As a greater interconnectedness between all people/things becomes apparent, so too does our individuality become more clearly defined from reactionary existence of the past. <em><br />
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<p>From a more removed/hindsight perspective I can now see how this really looks like an electrical circuit, where the two poles are thresholds to yet other layers of development (one toward an STO path and the negative pole toward a more decidedly STS path), with most of the stalker-pawns as a medium through which the two poles interact and play a part in each other&#8217;s development at this stage.</p>
<h3>more on The Circuit</h3>
<p>The negative pole in the circuit is the STS leader/organizer type. In a great sense, these people are not much different from the &#8216;perp puppets&#8217;, just that they are at least somewhat more aware and become adept at applying psychological warfare tactics. Everyone experiences many of the same negative, nearly ambient influences, but individuals have different levels of awareness and resistance. The average perpetrator (stalker pawn) is responding to negative influences with the least amount of resistance; they have the least amount of insulation.</p>
<p>Decidedly STS types perceive moving up in the hierarchy to be <em>greater freedom</em>; it is exciting to<em> know things that others don&#8217;t</em>, and the power can become intoxicating. As things progress the negative indoctrination (from their handler or peers involved in stalking) sinks deeper, affecting their experience of reality in a negative way. They become even more receptive to manipulation in the form of messages about reality such as : <em>it&#8217;s every person for themselves</em> = there is no lateral movement, only <em>kill or be killed</em>. There are many degrees of awareness, but one thing is clear: the deeper into indoctrination an STS type goes, the more they see interaction as a battle they need to win in order to survive. As such, those STS types who have been around the block a few times begin to actively develop their own tactics for most effectively controlling those people they come in contact with. Overall, their polarity increases to such a degree that they become key players against positive beings of similar awareness.</p>
<p>Because the target is more aware of free-thinking-versus-indoctrination, they are much likelier to reject the indoctrination messages nudging the unaware and the more aware STS beings alike, because they see indoctrination for the manipulation of their perception that it is. It may seem that the very trait of being relatively less impressionable increases their polarity toward the positive side of the culture, and mechanically speaking, that&#8217;s true, yet it is the culmination of <em>many lessons</em> based on <em>much experience</em> that makes this kind of polarity stand out from the background signals.</p>
<p>As their polarities increase a charge develops between the negative and positive poles. When enough of a charge builds a cycling current is produced, which flows from the negative to the positive pole. One can only surmise how being the negative pole in a strong circuit may feel like, but I imagine it&#8217;s excitement over their new abilities to manipulate people to do (what they think is) their bidding. The more they listen to the &#8220;informative voice&#8221; the more their life seems to shape up and bring them what they want: a social position, recognition, and power within a group of others. The positive pole experiences an influx of negativity in myriad patterns, degrees and types. After all, some of the incoming  bits are specific personal negative emotions from the messengers (stalker pawns), some are the darker intentions of the STS leader types (some intuited naturally by the target, some disclosed to the target intentionally to intimidate or falsely to distract), and some is the dark stuff of the collective unconscious.</p>
<p>Because a relatively more developed being uses introspection to make sense of the information they encounter, it can be all too easy to become overburdened with the sheer volume of input. The positive pole gets a whole lot of stuff that may take a while to be able to recognize and sort. Until a positive pole is able to understand the mechanics enough to step outside the circuit, there are all sorts of interesting things that occur from within the circuit, such as the negative pole mirroring the positive pole&#8217;s more STO stance.</p>
<p>The adoption of the target&#8217;s positive traits by the STS leader type is what I&#8217;ve called the <em>switcheroo</em>: where the target is seen as negative (dangerous, disgusting, etc), and the negative instigator is seen as a <em>friendly source of good advice. </em>Just how does the STS leader type manage to pull off this feat? On the most practical level, a lot of it is plain old character assassination, but in a larger systems perspective this involves <strong>research, entrapment, </strong>and<strong> debasement </strong>&#8230;</p>
<h3>Research</h3>
<p>Mirroring is a natural action used to fit into one&#8217;s environment and learn about becoming an individual with a distinct place within that environment. I don&#8217;t think that the negative pole is really all that aware of a larger perspective beyond what they see of those under them whom they are able to control. I think the negative pole, like anyone else, functions on what knowledge they have up to that point. And aside from their trying to understand the reigns they&#8217;ve seemingly just stumbled across, I think whether they&#8217;re aware of it consciously or not, they know that the positive pole is more developed in some way than they are (they may take cues from the high quality of relationships targets tend to have and attempt to appropriate these qualities so as to better indoctrinate their followers), so quite naturally, they begin to mimic the person.</p>
<h3>Entrapment</h3>
<p>What&#8217;s more, by mirroring the &#8216;good&#8217; qualities of a target stalker-pawns find it easier to enmesh themselves in the life of the target. Someone who is generally ethical and kindhearted, naturally, is more attracted to others who present themselves to be similar, their intentions seemingly altruistic. The research phase can make these presentations rather seamless until one knows what to look for or has enough evidence (actions speak louder than words).</p>
<h3>Debasement</h3>
<p>Then, as the STS leader painstakingly finds every example of the target acting contrary to these &#8216;good&#8217; qualities, the projection of Goodness is leeched from the target and appropriated by the stalkers. Of course this isn&#8217;t true in reality, the target does not become less kind or compassionate, but the <em>consensus persona</em> is affected thusly. By mirroring the target with multiple people, a strong feedback loop can be created. The STS leader type uses this feedback loop to interject disinformation into the <em>consensus persona</em> of the target. That is, the very concept/image of the target is taken apart and rebuilt to the STS leader&#8217;s liking. Once a solid feedback loop is set up, once the leader has shown <em>what a hypocrite </em>the target is, etc, all these steps create further distance between the <em>projected/consensus </em>persona of a target, and their truer, more-objective personality -the totality of an individual&#8217;s behavioral and emotional characteristics.</p>
<p>For example,</p>
<p>in my own experiences, along with the mirroring from &#8216;friends&#8217;, came certain messages criticizing my expectations that others should treat their fellow beings with what I saw as <em>basic decency</em>. Of course this is just an example of <em>truth within layers of lies</em> (which is a hallmark of run-ins between STO and STS beings). Naturally, growing through all this has indeed shown me that many people have no interest in being kind or compassionate (another part of the Sorting). But back to the topic at-hand, I think that oftentimes the STS/STO-switcheroo is fueled by STS leader types making a list of &#8216;good qualities&#8217; that a target has, then finding every example that contradicts these qualities in action, and making an example of the discrepancy to their followers: &#8220;<em>See, she&#8217;s not a compassionate person, listen to the way she&#8217;s bad-mouthing you</em>&#8220;, the STS leader says while replaying surveillance recording of the target venting about  the things <em>going wrong</em> around her/him, to a follower who has indeed acted maliciously and so probably deserves the bad-mouthing (completely beside the fact that such surveillance is criminal and anything overheard taken out of context). You get the idea, this is an example of the little ways that an STS leader type messes with the reality testing of the stalker-pawns, which encourages their susceptibility to indoctrination.</p>
<h3>voila! Switcheroo</h3>
<p>The greater the distance between these two personas (the target&#8217;s more-objective personality versus the persona that group of people <em>project onto</em> the target), the easier it is for the leader(s) to interject any old lie, accusation, slander about the target. The stalker-pawns are so caught up in the circuit at this point, in their own hive-mind way they are fucking <em>thriving</em> on an abundant source of what they crave most: authoritative instructions on what to think. In this truly inebriated state, they become less and less likely to notice or care about any discrepancy between what the handler tells them and their own perspective.</p>
<h3>Differential Growth Manifests as Circuits of Scapegoating</h3>
<p>As people become aware of the fields of control, they tend to develop into STS or STO types. Either way these relatively more developed beings are outgrowing their environment, and on their way to the next phase of development, play key roles in the ages old drama of &#8220;good versus evil&#8221; for the rest of the people who will also eventually outgrow their current environment too. These <em>movers-and-shakers </em>are the <em>positive and negative</em> poles in these scapegoating circuits; the target as STO-candidate, and the STS leader gathering power over whoever is willing to give up theirs. (<a href="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/index.php?s=sto+sts+service+to+self+others&amp;submit.x=0&amp;submit.y=0">more about the concepts of the two paths: STS and STO</a>)</p>
<p>_____________</p>
<p>Does <em>breaking the circuit</em> for oneself as a TI, really, objectively break the circuit of oppression? No. Not the first TI to point this out, but when one enjoys periods of relative calm after much covert harassment, it&#8217;s easier to spot the tactics being acted out on others &#8211;it just moves, and changes focus from one person to another. Personally, I believe this is part of a much grander scheme of learning and growth, and as we cross some thresholds of development there are sometimes growing pains -the system/environment resists the individual&#8217;s escaping / moving-on. It&#8217;s just the nature of a relatively static world to maintain it&#8217;s boundaries when an inhabitant of it&#8217;s domain tries to stray outside the box. (see Mouravieff&#8217;s <em>Gnosis</em> series)</p>
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		<title>Personality versus Essence</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It could be said that Personality is a result of acting upon A influences. Essence (the real I) is a result of tuning into B influences. Personality is a conglomerate of identities we mistake for true Identity. These are projected onto a person by the World, by others with whom we&#8217;ve lived and learned from/with, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='series_toc'><h5>Part of the '<b>Esoteric Teachings and Covert Oppression</b>' Series</h5><ol><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/esoteric-teachings-and-covert-oppression/' title='Esoteric Teachings and Covert Oppression'>Esoteric Teachings and Covert Oppression</a></li><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/the-general-law-and-the-law-of-exception/' title='The General Law and The Law of Exception'>The General Law and The Law of Exception</a></li><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/types-of-general-law-pressure/' title='Types of General Law Pressure'>Types of General Law Pressure</a></li><li><a href='http://gangstalkingjournal.com/general/metaphysical/a-and-b-influences/' title='A and B Influences: The Process'>A and B Influences: The Process</a></li><li class="current-list-item"><b>Personality versus Essence</b></li></ol></div> <p>It could be said that <b>Personality</b> is a result of acting upon A influences. <b>Essence</b> (the <i>real I</i>) is a result of tuning into B influences. Personality is a conglomerate of identities we mistake for true Identity. These are projected onto a person by the World, by others with whom we&#8217;ve lived and learned from/with, via A influences. Some of these we can clearly distinguish as &#8216;what so-and-so thinks of me, not what I think of myself&#8217;, and other projected bits of consensus I, we may have accepted as our own. These latter type can be somewhat trickier -or at least more involved- in trying to investigate and sort through the various connections.</p>
<p>According to Mouravieff et al Fourth Way student-teachers,</p>
<p>Personality can be broken into 3 centers: <b>intellectual</b>, <b>emotional</b>, and <b>motor</b>/instinct. Each of the three &#8216;lower centers&#8217; is split into several sections. The intellectual has purely-intellectual, intellectual-emotional and intellectual-motor facets, which in turn each have positive and negative versions, and so on for each of the lower centers. The higher centers in the Intellectual and Emotional portions of personality show that these factions have been reconciled, balanced and sorted. The following is a diagram that shows these <i>centers </i>when one is at the point of beginning the transition from <i>external man </i>to <i>internal man </i>(and one I added labels to).</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" title="mouravieff-fig-24" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-241.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-241.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-24" width="148" height="226"></p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-906" title="mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab1.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab1.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab" width="148" height="226"></p>
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<p>Long before I knew anything about esoteric philosophy, I had a very unexpected experience of seeing my Personality as distinctly separate from my Essence or True Self.</p>
<blockquote><p>I was giving a book report presentation in front of the class in sixth grade. Up to that point I had been a very outgoing kid who didn&#8217;t hesitate to get up in front of people and talk or otherwise express myself. I guess we all have moments of sudden self-consciousness, but this came with many additional and completely new perspectives. I had not prepared a formal presentation; I&#8217;d read and really liked the book, so I thought I&#8217;d just get up there and talk about it. I remember looking over at the student teacher to see she had a very disapproving, sort of <i>fuming </i>look on her face &#8211;like she knew I hadn&#8217;t prepared, hadn&#8217;t put forth the <i>right kind</i> or <i>enough</i> <b>effort</b> (something like that: she didn&#8217;t like me). That distracted me a bit. I kept talking and looked back at the classroom of other kids.</p>
<p>Suddenly the experience changed a LOT. I *saw* (it&#8217;s like errr a <i>symbolic mental sight</i>) something like a cloud of holograms overlapping each other here and there, making up this consensus <i>what/who</i> other people think I am. Next, I realized that it was quite different from my idea of myself. And then, that there was very little I could do to influence the consensus Cassie. It seems like I tried to reach for some of the consensus projection of my personality that I&#8217;d actually found to be useful (such as being <i>good/smart</i> at <i>tests/school, </i>or <i>charismatic </i>), but they just didn&#8217;t hold up with those x-ray lenses in place. The charisma and joy of sharing was impeded by the daunting view that I couldn&#8217;t <i>make</i> anyone see the <i>real me</i> and plenty of them didn&#8217;t care / wouldn&#8217;t be able to see the difference between those two types of self, even in themselves.</p>
<p>It seems like all the rest (trusted Personality bits) fell away as <i>equally illusory</i> as the <i>inaccurate representations</i> projected onto me, even if I had <i>chosen</i> to accept some of them &#8211;because I don&#8217;t remember exactly what happened in class except for what I&#8217;ve just related.</p>
<p>The experience also seemed to magnetize toward me a series of similar <i>social meltdown</i> moments here and there through junior high and high school. //It changed me deeply, went on to engender many interesting and useful insights toward deeper understanding of my place in the scheme of things -mostly I was inspired by all the possibilities and infinite evolution I saw beginning to unfold around me.</p>
<p>As a 14-16 year old, I was very absorbed in digging through and poking/turning around/getting rid of any/all personality bits so I could <i>get started being me</i>.</p>
<p><small>[timestamp]</small></p>
<p><small>Once I had a little game<br />
I liked to crawl back in my brain<br />
I think you know the game I mean<br />
I mean the game called &#8216;go insane&#8217;</small></p>
<p><small>Now you should try this little game<br />
Just close your eyes forget your name<br />
Forget the world, forget the people<br />
And we&#8217;ll erect a different steeple.</small></p>
<p><small>This little game is fun to do.<br />
Just close your eyes, i&#8217;m going too.<br />
And I&#8217;m right here, no way to lose.<br />
Release control, we&#8217;re breaking through</small></p>
<p><small>[/timestamp]</small></p>
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<h3>Personality as a Cocoon we must emerge from if we are to continue to grow and evolve</h3>
<p>Gurdjieff describes Personality as a <i>shell </i>similar to the one I saw projected onto me during my presentation. This shell is meant to protect the developing Essence, like the hull of a piece of grain or nutshell protects the developing meat/substance within. Over time, entanglement with external influences, unmediated by introspection, the shell of Personality grows into an immovable armor that begins to impede progress. Gurdjieff uses slightly different labels than Mouravieff. Rather than &#8216;real I&#8217; being a degree closer to greater Consciousness, there is <i>true Personality</i> and <i>false personality</i>, where <i>true personality</i> is closer to Essence/Consciousness than <i>false Personality</i>. <i>True personality </i>is something that best protects the Essence while also allowing it to expand and evolve until the time when&nbsp; Personality as one distinct and rigid &#8216;I&#8217; is outgrown, whereas <i>false personality </i>is armor/scaffolding that is hinders the development of Essence -it&#8217;s all the negative result of defining ourselves too much by A influences and materialistic standards.</p>
<blockquote><p>The infant&#8217;s dream-like association of ideas is slowly won over to an agreement of what should constitute reality. By the time our reasoning has developed enough to reflect on the process by which our reasoning has formed, we are part and parcel of the whole process, caught up in and sustaining it. By the time the young rebel reaches the age of rebellion his is inevitably that against which he would rebel</p>
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<p>Going back to the diagram of the Personality,</p>
<p style="text-align: center;" mce_style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-908  aligncenter" title="mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab2.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab2.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-24-plius-lab" width="148" height="226"></p>
<p>Mouravieff talks about<i> external man</i> as having 3 distinct types: <b><i>Man 1,2, and 3</i></b>. These are correlated to the <b>intellectual</b>, <b>emotional</b> and <b>action/motor</b> aspects of personality. Man 4 is still considered to be <i>external man</i>, but a balanced one in much more control over the direction that is taken, more resistant to A influences, resonating more with B influences.</p>
<h4>Man 4</h4>
<p style="text-align: center;" mce_style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-901 aligncenter" title="mouravieff-fig-25" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-25.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-25.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-25" width="148" height="234"></p>
<blockquote><p>When the magnetic center finally takes shape, it establishes an undisputed authority over the three centres of the Personality. He who was man 1,2 or 3 becomes man 4. Throughout this stage of his evolution such a man will have the task of recognizing the mode in which each of these three mental centres is functioning, assigning its proper role to each of them, and equilibrating them. This is how the magnetic centre&#8217;s growth is perfected and how its development commences. The latter is a function of conscious efforts to develop the lower centres up to their limits. The further this development is continued, the more the magnetic center absorbs the lower emotional centre, at the same time identifying itself more and more with the higher emotional centre. Once the three lower centres are fully developed and equilibrated, the magnetic center oce and for all identifies itself with the hgiher emotional centre, dragging with it the lower emotional center, with the magnetic center, will form an integral part of the higher emotional centre.</p>
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<p>Another interesting thing shown in Mouravieff&#8217;s diagrams is how one moves from being easily influenced by external influences, and how as Man 1,2, and 3, the three centers (intellectual, emotional and motor) are deeply connected.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-909" title="mouravieff-fig-22" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-22.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-22.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-22" width="142" height="230"></p>
<p>In the above diagram there is either little or no magnetic center formed yet. Without a sense of true Self that the magnetic center provides, a person is influenced heavily by many unseen aspects of their lower intellectual, emotional and motor centers.</p>
<p>For example, a shock to the intellect effects the emotional aspect via it&#8217;s ties to the positive and negative aspects of the emotional-intellectual portions (2 of the wedges in the lower emotional center). I believe this also explains the bouts of utter cacophony of thoughts, emotions and reactions that manifest and are sorted through as one moves through the experiences of covert oppression.</p>
<p>As one sorts through the aspects of the lower centers nad/or tunes into B influences, a magnetic center is formed. As the magnetic center develops it makes it possible for a person to detach somewhat from the lower centers; to be able to analyze and consider each aspect from a larger perspective:</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-910" title="mouravieff-fig-23" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-23.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-23.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-23" width="142" height="226"></p>
<p>For now we&#8217;ll leave off from the progress of <i>personality&gt;essence</i> in Mouravieff&#8217;s diagrams, with one final figure, a glimpse at the next stage:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;" mce_style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-full wp-image-902 aligncenter" title="mouravieff-fig-26" src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-26.jpg" mce_src="http://gangstalkingjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mouravieff-fig-26.jpg" alt="mouravieff-fig-26" width="148" height="230"></p>
<p>Mouravieff says about this diagram,</p>
<blockquote><p>This scheme of a man who has become complete and immortal in accordance with the meaning of the words of St. Paul: &#8216;<i>We shall not all die but we shall all be changed</i>?&#8217; The higher emotional centre, now placed in the centre ofthe figure, has absorbed the lower emotional centre. The significance of the dotted lines in this &#8211;as well as the link with the sexual centre&#8211; will be explained later.</p>
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<p>And, additionally, about Man 4, 5, 6 and 7:</p>
<blockquote><p>This union [above] realized, he who has carried out this work on himself will become Man 5.</p>
<p>In contrast to men 1,2, or 3 who are called <i>exterior</i> men, men 5,6, and 7 are <i>interior</i> men.</p>
<p>By establishing a link between the higher emotional centre and the hgiher intellectual centre, man 5 will become man 6, after which all that weill be left for him to do is to consolidate the results. This consolidation is the last stage of esoteric evolution.</p>
<p>The tasks for each stage of evolution can be defined as follows:</p>
<p><b>Man 4</b> &#8211; to recognize the existence of the three lower centres, make them grow and develop to the limit, and regulate their functioning;</p>
<p><b>Man 5</b> &#8211; to acquire new faculties and powers;</p>
<p><b>Man 6 </b>- to develop the faculties thus acquired to their utmost limits;</p>
<p><b>Man 7</b> &#8211; to consolidate the results obtained.</p>
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<p>We&#8217;ll come back to this process of moving from personality to essence, dealing with the tangled aspects of the lower centers and transforming negative aspects to positive ones to enhanced the development of the magnetic centers. Welcome to the Process,</p>
<blockquote><p>The &#8220;ego&#8221; &#8211; in the negative sense- is that ossified sense of a stable, unchanging &#8217;self&#8217; which people use as a defense against the Fear of Change and Death. It&#8217;s SELF as a suit of armor; protective or comforting at times SELF doesn&#8217;t allow much room to maneuver, make effective contact or adapt to new situations. Otherwise, the Ego, with a big &#8216;E&#8217; can be a useful tool like everything else lying around here. Ego creates the heroic drive towards the Transcendence which CONSUMES AND RESOLVES that drive into a higher context.</p>
<p>It must be remembered that you can&#8217;t go beyond ego until you&#8217;ve developed on to go beyond. The ego, as Individual Self, is scaffolding for what we can call superself or the memeplex (to use Susan Blackmore&#8217;s revolutionary theory). Scaffolding is a necessary part of any construction project but for the last couple of hundred years we&#8217;ve been encouraged to mistake the scaffolding for the building. The individual sovereign self once seemed such a developmental prize that it&#8217;s now very difficult to let go of it without incurring amusing existential extinction traumas, but like all other stages of growth it IS just a stage and must be surpassed.</p>
<p>Demoting the concept of the &#8216;individual&#8217; by deliberately engineering multiple, conferring &#8216;egos&#8217;, personae, memeplexes or selves is intended, at least by me, as a method if breaking up the existential, calcified, individual &#8216;Self&#8217; into more fluid Multiple Personality constellations, by exposing &#8216;the personality&#8217; as just one behavioral option from a menu of many.</p>
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